My Hate of TV
 

I really hate TV. Why? Because, This crop (Sorry, I just don't cuss, I just don't) is filling people's heads! Mainly I'm reffering to the stereyotypes which are basically telling kids "Hey, This is the REAL WORLD! This is ALL of the people, ALL of the tifferent kinds of people you will meet and if you meet someone different you should OUTCAST THEM!! Yup, That's how you should live!!" OK, SERIOUSLY?! And then they turn right around and tell you to BE YOURSELF?! But the moment you try just that people either turn their backs or attack you, Of course, I don't let this change who I am but because of this, but people actually listen to this! Now I understand that rarity in standing out is pretty rare and that's the thing! Most people these days think of different people as stupid or people who should be attacked, Why is it so hard to find people who appreciate the stand outs?! Why is there a set definition to what's cool and what's not? Last year was the first time I've met people who really like me (Outside of my family) because I was different, Before then only one or two people seemed to be like that and not glare at me and make me feel like standing out is unaccetable.

So what is your input on this?

*hands you a helmet*

Life sucks. You'll need one of these.

I wasn't accepted in high school alot nor in Junior highschool. Maybe because preconceived notions about who i was, but im not sure this is the tvs fault. As Koir says "life sucks" theres no getting around that sometimes you just have to deal with it.

Heh, "life sucks" I've known that feeling my whole life if you couldn't tell, except those rare times when it didn't stink so much . . . So where do you think they come from? But I do agree that that is what the problem is, and people get this habit from SOMEWHERE, maybe laziness or fear of trying to understand.

Television, now more than ever, has to cater to the absolutely lowest denominator to keep people watching. That's why you have reality shows and sensationalist media masquerading as legitimate news programs. I don't watch much TV anymore, haven't for years. It's just below my demographic and I find Youtube and other sites like it more to my liking.

You do have the right mindset in that nothing these programs try to communicate as reality is in any way the real thing. However, there's the thousands of other carbon-based lifeforms out there for whom it *is* reality, and have to be handled accordingly.

Good luck.

In other words I should just live life like I normally do and that unless my army does something about it, it's going to be like that forever?

Heh, We'll see . ..

Can you give some examples of this, because I can't really think of any.

First of all, TV doesn't send any messages what so ever, TV sole purpose is for entertainment, if anything the only message they are sending is "HEY WATCH MORE TV. It's never be yourself, no and its not to show out what so ever....
If tv were anything like regular life than it would be boring as hell, seriously >.< I don't want watch a show about what farmers are doing in Colorado or what what my mom does while she is at work, because i'm pretty sure that is not entertaining what so ever.

Another reason, tv does not define cool. its call advertising it's everywhere....What's cool and what's not is just a preconcieved notion and if it's your choice to follow the herd so be it, you like what you like, be a trendsetter.

You must be in middle school or something because middle basically is you're gonna hang with people who act like you, usually when you get to high school all of those stereotypes change a you should be moving to a more diverse crowd of individuals, for the people to refuse to give up their status that they made in middle school and brought over to highschool they fail to realize that it will be over in four years....(TV is not the cause of this)

But I am trying to think of shows where the lesson is, if you meet someone different, then "OUTCAST THEM!!"

Certainly there are shows there characters are outcast, but those characters doing the outcasting are usually presented in a negative light.

Well there's two angles.

One, if parents are to let their kids watch TV alone, then they should be sure to inform their child that TV is not the real world. It's really as simple as that.

Secondly... In all honesty I would rather the media define stereotypes to give others preconcieved ideas about who I am based on my actions, because TV also enforces the idea that people are very different than what their appearances tell you. This happens more and more each day. It's a much better alternative to the whole "fear anything different" method of thinking prior to cable tv.

Then there's the hidden 3rd angle! TV's chains have been broken by the contradictions gifted to us by the internet.

I wouldn't say that the media is responsible for it. I would say that the media does a nice job with supplying us with the paint, so to say. It's been human nature for quite some time now to divide our society into different groups. We love to categorize things, people are no exception.

You bring up a good point, Tyrian. In this day and age, there are so many avenues of entertainment, one can create his or her own entertainment.

This makes for a different world then a couple decades ago. When there were only a handful of TV channels everyone would watch the same shows, so there was a sort of mutual media understanding.

Now if I am, say a golf fan, I can literally fill my media entertainment with nothing but golf-related programming. I could watch the Golf Channel, cruise gold forums, play golf games on my consoles or computer, etc.

Although few people would define themselves that simply or program their entertainment that narrowly, those options are there.

The point is, I don't have to watch any show or media that I don't agree with. I can always find media that will support my beliefs and ignore media that does not.

This is why the FCC is obsolete. It was originally founded to monitory "decency" across the radio airwaves. That was when there were only a handful of radio stations. The argument was that there wasn't a lot of choice in programming. Now one is free to change the channel if he or she does not like what is shown.

I feel like too many people have too much of an interest in what they do not like, rather than what they do like :/

Ummm . . .Were you serious about that retarded comment? That's sad . . .

YuGiOh 5Ds made a good example when they isolated Aki or "Black Rose" because she had bad rumors goin' around, which were sorta true butbecause of these rumors people knew she was different and I'm no psycology expert but apparently, In that show they said that people seem to hate and outcast what they don't understand, Do you think that's true?

As I said,all I can really say is . . .That's a sign of very poor character, making such a broad statement . . .

I'm inclined to agree aswell.

I have never watched YuGiOh, so I don't know if it is true or not. That is, of course, a Japanese show, not a Western one, but yes people tend to outcast what they do not understand. Are those outcasting rewarded for outcasting in the end? Is the person being outcast seen as being treated unfairly or justly?

What about the first post of this thread?

umm...this mirrors society not the other way around, people have outcasted others they don't understand for the longest before tv....

(i.e. making for "good" or "cliche" drama.)

Yeah I have to agree with this qoute.

And to add- the trick to not letting it get to you is to not have high expectations of the TV.

Its telling when the most intelligent show broadcast at the moment are hosted by comedians (Bill Maher, Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert are about the only TV I watch)

I have to agree there right now they are usually what i stick with, but i do watch the news too. Can't wait for new Bill Maher. =]

To the OP... I think the internet is far worse than TV, these days.
Imagine all the brainwashing theories and myths about television and multiply them by 10: that's the internet. :p



In regards to your original post, where you refer to society's interpretation of life through TV shows, I believe somewhere a certain level of strategic programming is involved. Speaking broadly, it's humanity's attempt to edit and comfort itself--which, if true, would present a valuable philosophical prospect--but I digress. If we had no common understanding of how life was meant to be lived--virtually no social standard at all--governments and people of power would have problems diplomatically making reference to a set style of living, giving them far less control and influence. Things like stereotypes are potentially tools to (groups of) people who know how to use them: i.e. The government. And that can have both good and bad implications, depending on where you look at it from.

Lol... It's complex for me. I can hardly skim the surface of it all with what little articulatory skills I possess, but what I think I'm trying to get at is... it's like ripples in a small pond: When you drop a stone (ideas) it affects the rest of the pond (humanity) in outward momentum, until the ripples either fade out or bounce back inward, depending on the characteristics of the stone.

In other words, people are affected by life in an infinite amount of ways, subsequently influencing the way they think, and enabling tons of new ideas and interpretations of life to arise. When people can relate to a certain new idea or interpretation on a large scale, to the extent that even the authors of the ideas themselves are affected by them (a ripple reflecting back inwards) it can be considered... at least by me... essentially a spontaneously generated... rule.

TV influences and is influenced by life.

I can't seem to summarize my thoughts very well tonight, so I apologize for my wordiness. And realize I tried to restrict myself from sounding too philosophical... I'm hoping at least one person will be able to understand what I'm trying to say, knowing that what I have to say is far from conclusive.

It's not all bad. I'm a sucker for fishing and wildlife shows, as well as some documentaries.

That kind of TV is OK, but alot of the stuff that has scripted dialouge (Basically anything fiction and even some reality where they show people just cussing and fighting when they get put down) And trying to get folks to feel the need to be like that, Not intentionally but it's the way people react to them . . .

sigh......

...you shot yourself in the foot when you made the title with 'my hate of tv.' 'My' is subjective as is the different shows on tv. You can't show some and not others because its stupid. That is censorship and people from a free country don't like that. heck, people in countries like china hate it.

People like watching underdogs, it's a feel good thing when you see them at their lowest and they rise from it. Anyone who takes anything seriously from tv needs to be sectioned.

There will always be haters, even without tv. Take a look at history. Why were there class systems in society before the 1950's (when tv was invented).

and your last post about,
take a good long look at your first post

dude, that's just how the world works. either u can cry about it, or not cry about it. u choose pretty much.

I dont have a TV since I left my parents house at 18 or so and went to the university, which was, well, 18 years ago. TV is the most retarded, passive way of killing life, with small exceptions (but I can live without them).

And, "carbon-based lifeforms " compose great ambient music :D

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I hate television and the media, because some secret people and bodies use television and control the media and make films ​​for bad specific purposes and maybe for Bad political purposes.
TV and media play a big role in the problem between the Arab and the West, as the Hollywood imagine that Arabs are all criminals and murderers, and therefore, we find that most people in the west hate the Arabs , as well as the command for the TV and the Arab media.
It is difficult to find a neutral media, because we live in a world full of lies and deception, but it is not impossible.
At the same time I am in favor of scientific documentaries.
I want from you to see this section:
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Edit : For example, the Reuters news agency said today that the Syrian army broke into the north of Aleppo, according to information from the "eye-witnesses."
But now I live in Aleppo and there are no tanks and no Syrian Army in Aleppo , it is false information, but at the same time may be an agency Reuters has made ​​a mistake unintentionally.

You can hate TV and the media in general for whatever reason you want to, but sweeping statements like this get swept aside because you either believe in a massive universal global media conspiracy, or you are overgeneralizing about TV and media in general, as if everyone working in TV and media is of the same mind and same agenda.

I do not believe most people in the West "hate the Arabs" or think they are "all criminals and murderers". Again, sweeping generalizations make me sweep your argument aside because I know for A FACT it isn't true.

It is difficult because human beings are not neutral creatures. Every person has an opinion or a bias. That is not evil. That is human nature.

I am glad you like Network. It is an interesting movie. So there are no military movements NORTH of Aleppo, as your own quote says? Are you in Managh?

I didn't say that all media channels are false and liers , or that all television programs purpose to distorting the image of Arabs, I hate the media because it is easy from someone or a specific groub to control the channel information for political purposes or for specific purposes, I hate the media because there is no guarantee that all transmitted information by the media is true .
Well tell me your fact , I know that alot of people in the west have wrong information about the Arabs .
So you can't get impartial information, because the opinion of the owner of the channel will distort the truth.
I do not think so, the media must to convey the real picture, they mustn't lie , and they are free in there analysis and there views, the function of the media is to report the facts on the ground neutrally , because the human want to know the truth regardless the opinion of the owners .

I am not defending a specific destination , but Managh is a small village located in north of Aleppo. I live in Aleppo, and it is easy for me to know the truth of the matter there, until this moment there is no army there.
once the time , human rights sources said that there are tanks surround the University in Aleppo , and the University is located directly in front of my house, there were rollers for asphalt!! It was abig joke !!
again , I am not defending a specific destination , All I want to say that it is easy to control the media and television and distorting the facts

Again, you are overgeneralizing. "The media" is not one person, place, or thing. There are clearly some media outlets that exist to promote an agenda by their owners and supporters (FOX News is an example). But that doesn't mean ALL the world's media is like that (as you said). I think choose your targets, instead of carpet bombing.

You didn't say anything about having "wrong information". You said most people in the West "hate Arabs". Those are two very different statements.

There are rules of ethics in journalism in the West. For one to call oneself a journalist, there are certain things they must do, but unfortunately the ones that don't follow these rules get a lot of attention. True journalists must do everything in their power to convey the "real picture". I am saying to err is human. It is impossible to show the "real picture" as everyone has a different perspective. You and I may see the same incident, and report it very differently, even if we both are trying to present the "real picture".

I can find several news stories telling me different from what you said. You say it is all fabricated.

Syrian troops mass within 500m of Turkey - thestar.com

Syrian forces push north of Aleppo, storm village | Reuters

Lebanon news - NOW Lebanon -Syrian army deploys near Aleppo