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I am not screaming racism I am calling a spade a spade. Did you read your buddy, West's statements? He said sacrifices need to be made by those that look like illegal immigrants. Notice how I do what? Number your questions and I will address every one I haven't addressed yet. Feel free to address mine, too. This isn't a black and white issue. I am not the stereotype you want to make me out to be. I am not defending cop killing, organized crime, drug trafficking or human smuggling. All of those are illegal activities that this law doesn't even address, much less help to enforce. What I am defending is the right of American citizens to travel and live freely as American citizens. The question seems to be "What does an illegal alien look like?" and I think you need to answer first "what does an American citizen look like?" If you are saying American citizens should be presumed to be guilty before innocent in terms of their citizenship, then own up to that. |
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Glad you clarified this time minus the racial stereotyping. I think most are in agreement with you here about stopping businesses *knowingly* hiring illegals. But the concensus is it is only a part of the problem. Obviously securing the border should be priority number one; which the state can't do and the federal government turns a blind eye. Yes, maybe stomping on ants at this point, but still better than nothing. Arizona is in a state of emergency and had to act in any way they can within the law. And the campaign door swings both ways wihle we are on the subject. A Real problem: YouTube - TERRORISTS CROSSING MEXICAN-U.S. BORDER And little surprise from Janet "No security" Napolitano who just has time to comment with Eric Holder on laws they haven't read. Yep you guessed it, she didn't read it either. FOXNews.com - Napolitano Admits She Hasn't Read Arizona Immigration Law in 'Detail' |
Clint, then admit the fact that if we go after the companies that hire undocumented workers, we can greatly reduce the problem at a much lower cost than stamping out ants all day.
Of course I am against illegal organized crime, drug smuggling, human traf...wait, I am repeating myself...I don't need to go into that again, I think. |
I already said that targetting those companies is a good idea, but how do we identify them?
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As a law enforcement professional who lives this stuff everyday, I can again say tou are wrong. This law does address those violations you mention. Most cities in California and Arizona are "sanctuary cities" which harbor illegals. After being arrested they are not reported to ICE - they get out and continue thier associations with crime. If most crime is committed by illegals - then targeting illegals will resolve the issue. The police's hands arer tied and so cannot get a handle on the situation. This law will help them do so. Again, admit you know nothing about law enforcement and how this law works. |
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Sit in front of Home Depot and follow trucks that pick up undocumented workers for day labor. Go to any farm and ask to see the docs and tax records of all their workers. Go to any cannery or meat processing plant and ask to see the docs and tax records of all their workers. If this law is about identifying "suspicious" individuals, then to to the places where these "suspicious" people tend to work. |
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Here are some stunning numbers fresh off the press FOXNews.com - Cost of Illegal Immigration Rising Rapidly in Arizona, Study Finds "Arizona’s illegal immigrant population is costing the state’s taxpayers even more than once thought -- a whopping $2.7 billion, according to researchers at the public interest group that helped write the state's new immigration law." In this case, every bit counts, including sending back to desperate illegals who come to feed off the system. And I reiterate: YouTube - TERRORISTS CROSSING MEXICAN-U.S. BORDER |
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Again, again, again, again, and again, this is not about not punishing criminals. It is about not punishing American citizens. I am not talking about law enforcement, but about not stepping on the rights of American citizens to do it. If you are saying we need to step on the rights of American citizens to enforce the law, then I say "no". I have never attributed your words to West's, what I am saying is that you and him are on the same side, but are saying two very different things. If you disagree with West, maybe you should address the problems with his statements here, as I have. As I said, I think you are the political voice behind this law, but he is the reality of how the Arizona conservative public wants it to be enforced. |
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Feel free to address (or not) all the other points I made about what you said. |
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