Originally Posted by WingsToDiscovery (Post 840556)

I think we have somewhat of a general consensus on this. My problem however is that you're using the word "cosmetic surgery" as a definitive word. I have a friend who recently had cosmetic surgery. The procedure he had literally no correlation to his physical health or physical well being, but instead to help alleviate the mental trauma he'd faced his entire life.




"In that case if there is a way to enhance his or her life mentally or emotionally then of course-- but isn't it more like a fashion fad these days?


I'm no talking about people born with something about their bodies that causes them upset or grief-- I'm really thinking of those who have it done because their friends have had it done.It obviously helps many people who actually NEED it-- but for those who doit for the sake of fashion or fad-- ?



But even if it is just some girl looking to get a boob job or nose job or whatever, you can't just disregard the psyche behind why she wants to do it, why she feels inadequate, and what can be done to help her after she's still not satisfied after the procedure, which is a common case. This opens the doors to a much deeper meaning as to why people go through these procedures from a mental standpoint. Some of these people could be considered "sick" for lack of a better term, if they're willing to mutilate themselves based on what they've seen on TV. So don't you think these people would be better off getting some kind of help rather than being chastised for being "artificial?"

Originally Posted by dogsbody70 (Post 840419)

Cosmetic surgery seems to be very popular now.

Is there the same interest in Japan?

Do men appreciate women who have had cosmetic surgery or all they use to try to look younger.

Originally Posted by RealJames (Post 840589)

I'm going to take a risk and go on-topic by trying to answer the OP rather than taking this conversation down the expected path of "is it good or not" :rolleyes:

I teach English in Japan, as a result I meet people from pretty much all walks of life, even English haters. One of my most popular lessons is about piercings/tattoos/plastic-surgery.

I'd have to say that about 1% of my students have had plastic surgery if not less. Everyone seems to have a very strong idea of exactly what they would get if they did get it done, and yes eye-lids is one of the most popular, along with nose enlargement lol.
Either way, it doesn't seem to have caught on very much here, it's not shunned really but it's not seen in a good light. It is assumed, though, that a celebrity will have had it done, as a career requirement practically.

The one rationale I always get for "Why not do it?" is always "I can just use make up to make myself prettier ... "

So, that is the mentality of the vast majority of Japanese women I teach.

Originally Posted by Brass (Post 840426)

I'm actually considering plastic surgery myself. In America looks are the most important thing you can offer to the opposite sex (sadly). America is a *VERY* superficial place. Probably the most superficial on earth.

Originally Posted by missprincess (Post 840645)

the same problem is now apparant in the UK - although not as severe we have alot of documentaries and campaigns to encourage natural beauty like the dove campaign and 'coleens real women', i love my country for that! however ive noticed PS can be very severe in asia, eg they get there jaws broken and reshaped - their eyes redone - all to look more western - check the before and after pics of honey lee for example! its really sad because i think asian features are AMAZING! esp the guys ;)

Originally Posted by MMM (Post 840647)

Why do you come to the conclusion that Asian women get plastic surgery to look like white women?

Originally Posted by missprincess (Post 840648)

ive seen a few documentaries on it -- eg jessica simpson 'the price of beauty' she went to japan and investigated it

Originally Posted by MMM (Post 840650)

You have seen a few documentaries that say Asian women get plastic surgery in order to look like white women?

I would like to hear more about these shows. I am familiar with the Jessica Simpson one, but I would not conclude that the reason all women in Asia get blepharoplast (eye widening procedure) because they want to look white. For a certain percentage, with that one procedure, that may be true, but larger eyes are considered attractive in practically all cultures, and it's not because white people generally have wider eyes. It makes one look younger and more expressive.

In Korea, for example, a lot of people get this procedure done, but nowadays it is almost expected and a sign of upper crust culture, not of looking western.