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Just following on from my previous comments. We've all probably heard of the incredibly high conviction rates in Japan. On the face of it it may appear rather impressive having a conviction rate of 99%. You may think the police are incredibly good at their jobs able to put forth such amazingly convincing cases in court to secure the conviction. Nothing could be further from the truth. Basically if police are unable to extract a confession in the lenghty time they have to get it then a most of cases won't actually make it to court. Most court cases here are only after a confession has been secured. So basically the accused has admitted guilt and there is no real trial as such there is only a hearing to work out sentencing. It's one of the reasons why jury trials have basically been superfulous here because there is rarely a long process of weighing up the evidence.

So there is great pressure on the police from prosecuters to get the confession. Supposedly even one lost case can destroy a prosecutors career. Because why did they bring the case to court if they weren't sure they would win? To have done so shows very poorly on the prosecutor. So the whole process becomes open to corruption. The system here does not start with a presumption of innocence. In fact if the police have brought you in for interrorgation then you are pretty much assumed guilty and it's just a waiting game till you crack and confess.

I haven't had much experience with the police in the UK, but here, the police are split in terms of region (e.g. Tayside Police in Tayside and Angus, Grampian Police in Grampian and Aberdeen etc.). There are a few TV programmes which follow the police on their daily pursuits (not 'pursuits' as in car chases. 'Pursuits' as in day-to-day activities, you understand), and while the police may seem helpful, and they are just doing their job, they do earn a fair deal of hate. An example is during the student protests, which threatened to turn into riots. One 20-year-old was beaten over the head by a policeman and his batton, causing a life-threatening head injury. This earned the police a bad name. But it works the other way round too. During the UEFA cup final in Manchester, the Rangers fans rioted and there was a clip of a policeman stumbling and falling backwards, then a gang of about 15-20 Rangers fans surrounded & kicked the fallen policeman.

Pic of the police:

EDIT: P.S. - @yuko81 - If only. A lot of people would be commiting crimes every day just to be repremanded by them. lol

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Originally Posted by WingsToDiscovery (Post 841743)

Being from Baltimore, the cops there are ruthless. Having one of the highest murder rates (if not the highest; I know it's held the title before) in the entire US, most cops take a "shoot first, ask questions later" approach to their job.
Even my public school was like a jail. We had metal detectors at the doors, police with mace and firearms patrolled the school, and we weren't allowed to have backpacks or heavy coats to help to try and cut down on concealed weaponry.
The police force is stacked and ready to cut people down if need be.

I can speak about the police in the city of Philadelphia, Pa. I used to live there for a year and half, they had a pretty bad rep and nicknamed "body-baggers", wait for the heat to calm and then asses the scene, but in philly the murder rate is especially high. Then again not all police are the same, some take their job to heart and actually go by the book, but you do t=have some who stray. But in a small town like the one i live in now, is peaceful only a few upsets a year.

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Originally Posted by JohnBraden (Post 841740)

Well, yes, I'm from Spain, born and raised, but I'm not Spanish, even though I was born in a Spanish hospital.

To sum it up as short as possible:
My mother was born in the Philippines before the Japanese invaded. My grandfather was the director of the Bank of the Philippine Islands (a Spanish bank) in Manila and was sent to Cebu City. Once the war was over, the family packed up and moved back to Spain (Donostia).

My father was born in Butte, Montana and joined the Air Force during the Korean War. He was stationed in Germany, then Libya, Morocco and finally the new AB in Torrejon, Spain.

They met at the base, since she got a job there because so few people spoke English, they hired her because she was raised with English in the P.I. They got married and had three kids. I have U.S. citizenship from birth, so that's how I can join the USAF. The rest of my family on my mother's side is Spanish, totally, since all my aunts and uncle changed their citizenship from Filipino to Spanish the minute they got back to Spain.

My name in Spain (under their naming system) would be Juan Braden Sainz Moyle Ascasibar....totally Basque....I lived downtown Madrid and grew up feeling more Spanish than American.

And while I am a fan of Real Madrid and remember going as a kid to the Santiago Bernabeu many times to watch games and eat "pipas", I am not as fervent a fan as my brother. I have no enemosity, even sports-related to el Barca and its fans....:mtongue:

Nice life story! I could make that into a movie script! Very nice :)

Seeing your background, it all makes sense now. It's just so cool to find someone on here who knows stuff like this. I mean, I never thought I'd live enough to see the term "Basque" written in one post from this forums. As for you being a fan of R. Madrid... well, I'll let you off the hook cause it was a long time ago and I know for sure that, as of now, if you still watched them play, you'd feel ashamed and would wanna get back every signle cent you spent on going to their games ;)

I wonder what would happen if you dropped a unit of japanese police in the middle of watts or compton. How many days (or even hours) until they are eaten alive?

Police in my country is divided into three political Policia Militar charge of patrol and security in the streets, "Policia Civil takes care to solve the murders, are investigative work and sometimes they act as security with police military. Military and civilian police are controlled by the power of your corresponding states. The latter is the Policia Federal responsibility to take care of emigration, terrorism, international exploration.

Well here you can't trust the police. A lot of them are in the side of the drug dealers. They are good for nothing, and if a shooting starts (they are pretty common here) they are the last ones to arrive, and of course when all the criminals got away.

We can only trust the army.

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Originally Posted by Suki (Post 842063)

I see you're an avid fan so I will not get into an argument with you!;) Yeah, I can say I've been fortunate to have the upbringing I had. It gives me a different view of things. As for the Basque heritage, please don't think I'm with Herri Batasuna or ETA.... Yes, I have the Basque ANeg blood coursing through my veins, but if I were there, they'd think I was an American because I look nothing like a Spaniard. I still freak people out here when I speak Castellano!:eek:

From Belgium...
Meh... useless...

They came 15 minutes later after phone, they arrest good citizens in out-hours and they let pass all infractions while work-hour (7h00->9h00 / 15h00->17h00)
They are also scary of strangers...

It's nice to hear from Japan as the police is way much better ;)

I really thank everybody posted here..........:)

Thank you guys:)

I will return soon to post more.......

Here in Sudan (that being governed by military oppressive criminal governemnt

headed by Omer Al-Bashir) the police troops are just an

oppressive tool to suppress the freedoms,the opposition & the peaceful

demonstrations!!!!!!

The police in Sudan has lost its independence, it became at the disposal of

the governing party (the national congress party)!!!!!!

Most of the Sudanese policemen are heartless & rude people that don't treat

the citizens & the people in a kind & gentle manner.......

Even if you went to them seeking help,probably you wouldn't find a gentle

treating,quick response & effective service!!!