I've read various books on the issue.

I posted this link earlier in the thread if you want to read it. It sums it up pretty well

John Pilger: The lessons that should be learnt from Hiroshima | Comment is free | The Guardian

Oh maybe if you were involved at the time you might think differently.

anyway whats the point. It happened-- can't change it now.

I keep saying we should always remember it as a warning about the horrors of using Nuclear bombs.


for goodness sake why can't we all get on. its crazy going on and on about the rights and wrongs.

Has this conversation changed to a fantasy war? Ps Please tell me MM-- apart from the bombing of Pearl Harbour before 9/11 had the citizens in AMERICA been bombed as other countries had?

I don't think you are understanding me, and I don't understand the point of the question.

9/11
 

As 3M can not understand your simple question : no, they had not been bombed between Pearl Harbour and 9/11. The US has an unique geographic place and no country has a chance to bomb the USA in case of a limited local war (not in case of a possible global thermonuclear conflict).

The point is: Had the Americans citizens known what it was like to be bombed as happened elsewhere.


Pearl Harbour was an easy target-- but were towns cities etc ever actually bombed? America woke up when the twin towers were attacked. that has led to invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan. Bush was too eager to kill the terrorists. Brought UK into it against advice from the UN. we were told a pack of lies re WMD's. Many Brits did Not wish to go to war in Iraq or Afghanistan.

surely the question was: why was there an attack on twin towers? Obviously the attackers were not too happy with American Politics So many innocent lives were lost that day and SINCE------- with the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Maybe this should go on another thread.


I still cannot fathom why you are using star wars as an example on this subject.

thank you termogard.

thankyou Ronin, I had seen this before. Not sure that one mans opinion will influence me really but thank you.

lol.. one mans opinion.

Check the facts. Check out other historians.

Not to mention this "one man" is one of the most respected investigative journalists to have ever lived.

Just because politicians in the US outnumber the people that are calling for the truth to be admitted doesn't mean that they're right.

invasions
 

America woke up, yes. An average Joe suddenly realized that american cities also can be attacked by enemy.
As for Bush Jr.... that is just not that simple, as 3M used to say.
GWB started a war under false pretexts and turned Iraq into bloody mess.

Imagine, that you are a SANE leader of some country with a decent military capabilities. Your intelligence informs you about a location of a terrorist's camp. You gives an order and your special forces make an operation with a surgeon's accuracy. Terrorists are wiped out without harm for civilians. No need to invade a whole country (except a case when you wish to seize and steal their oil, of course).;)
Many Brits did Not wish to go to war in Iraq or Afghanistan, you said.
But Antony Bliar played a role of lap dog very well.