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dogsbody70 01-23-2011 11:29 AM

Yoko Ono
 
Many of us know that Yoko Ono was married to John Lennon.

Here is a little about her.

Yoko Ono - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

My japanese friend says that many Japanese are not happy with Yoko Ono.

I am uncertain why?

Does anyone have any thoughts about Yoko Ono and her influence on John Lennon

Ghap 01-23-2011 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by dogsbody70 (Post 847961)
Many of us know that Yoko Ono was married to John Lennon.

Here is a little about her.

Yoko Ono - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

My japanese friend says that many Japanese are not happy with Yoko Ono.

I am uncertain why?

Does anyone have any thoughts about Yoko Ono and her influence on John Lennon

Your Japanese friend isnt alone......many Beatles fans from all around the world were not happy with her...tho I must point out this is an argument that has been going on for Decades.

steven 01-23-2011 01:08 PM

It's funny because I know a woman who is named Ono Yoko (Yoko Ono in western name order).

Most people that I've talked to about this (who are Japanese) don't really know who she is. Some people know a little bit, but not enough to like her or dislike her. Some people strangely like her. And some people dislike her just because they know that people dislike her (like beatles fans from England or the US for example).

I've even met a singer who dislikes Yoko Ono simply because she married John Lennon (instead of the singer, of course... it was funny because she felt that she almost had it since she is Japanese like Yoko Ono).

My wife didn't even know who she was. So we did a little bit of research. In fact, there is a documentary about her on youtube--
YouTube - The Real Yoko Ono (Part 1 of 6) 素顔のジョン&ヨーコ

I don't know how much of it is truth, but it was entertaining nonetheless. It is in English and has Japanese subtitles.

I know that there is a lot of info about Yoko Ono and John Lennon on the internet... and not knowing either one of them personally I have no idea what is truth and what is not. I think that John Lennon certainly made a choice as a man to be with her-- so a lot of the blame that gets put on her seems to be a little unfair. Just in case you're not familiar with the situation, a lot of Beatles fans blame her for the break up of the Beatles. I personally think it was more than that (particularly their manager's (Brian Epstein) death. She certainly didn't help the situation though. As Ghap said this is an argument that has and will go on forever.

Personally, I don't like a lot of her music... but I think it's interesting to note that the two of them made some very experimental music that I guess could be classified as 'noise rock' or 'noise' or whatever they call it now days. While I think her musical contributions had no place within the Beatles, out of context there was some interesting stuff here or there (although I can't stress enough that I don't like it).

Ghap 01-23-2011 01:38 PM

That was quite intresting.

I agree John Lennon is as much to blame as Yoko for whatever happened but I wasnt around in that era so I guess hearsay is all I can add but ive known people to be quite nasty about it.

RealJames 01-23-2011 03:24 PM

If I were famous, and tried to leave the life of fame to enjoy that life with my wife, and then my wife got shat on for taking me away from my fans, I'd feel my fame was the most hollow achievement of my life.

pumpum 01-23-2011 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RealJames (Post 847974)
If I were famous, and tried to leave the life of fame to enjoy that life with my wife, and then my wife got shat on for taking me away from my fans, I'd feel my fame was the most hollow achievement of my life.

whoa that is F**** deep but true

btw - i have never met in person anyone who liked the beatles!

Columbine 01-23-2011 06:33 PM

My mild dislike for Yoko Ono stems from that I genuinely don't like her art or music and she seems pretty up herself. On a much more petty basis the worst teacher I ever had shared the same name (one broke up bands, the other broke up whole university departments) and dear god, if I ever have to read that damn Genki chapter about her stupid life ONE MORE TIME, heads are gonna roll. Or you know, being British, there will be silent disapproving seething from the back of the room.

Ryzorian 01-24-2011 01:59 AM

Beatles and yoko whatever are like, sooooo last century.

steven 01-24-2011 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by pumpum (Post 847990)

btw - i have never met in person anyone who liked the beatles!

Are you being sarcastic?

dogsbody70 01-24-2011 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Ryzorian (Post 848057)
Beatles and yoko whatever are like, sooooo last century.


ryzorian-- so what-- Beatles music wil be played for ever-- just because it was a wee while ago-- I take it you are not into history anything before yOu were born:mtongue:

dogsbody70 01-27-2011 09:02 AM

I really wanted to know if it was true that many Japanese disliked Yoko Ono. Has she done something to offend the Japanese?

Yoko Ono seemed to have a big influence on John Lennon

I wonder about the skater who skates for Russia

Ghap 01-27-2011 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealJames (Post 847974)
If I were famous, and tried to leave the life of fame to enjoy that life with my wife, and then my wife got shat on for taking me away from my fans, I'd feel my fame was the most hollow achievement of my life.

Indeed..I wonder what his wife at the time felt about Yoko?

NanteNa 01-27-2011 06:09 PM

Most people made her the culprit of John Lennon's substance abuse.

steven 01-28-2011 03:03 AM

I may be mistaken, but I believe NanteNa may be referring to John Lennon's heroin addiction. I personally think "most people" is a bit too strong, but there are certainly a number of people who believe she got him into it.

steven 01-28-2011 07:01 AM

You're right about that-- the Beatles were doing drugs practically before they were "the Beatles" (when you consider uppers/amphetamines and stuff like that).

About his time in New York-- I always found "the lost weekend" to be very interesting. I think that was in California though. There were definitely drugs involved in that situation. Have you heard of "A Toot and Snort in '74"?

NanteNa 01-28-2011 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by steven (Post 848559)
I may be mistaken, but I believe NanteNa may be referring to John Lennon's heroin addiction. I personally think "most people" is a bit too strong, but there are certainly a number of people who believe she got him into it.

It may be a bit ''too strong''.. But either way, I've only heard her mentioned when people talk about how badly she messed him up.

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Originally Posted by TheLastFortnight (Post 848537)
He was taking drugs before meeting her and the other Beatles were using them too, by the time he was already married to her he said in an interview: "If somebody gives me a joint, I might smoke it, but I don't go after it."

Oh.. Well, I watched a few documentaries (and that movie.. based on the Beatles.) where they all made it seem as if it was Yoko's fault. I'm not one to judge, cause I'm not really that interested. But yeah..


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