Originally Posted by MissMisa (Post 857100)

Japanese government =/= Red Cross. If the Red Cross have enough for Japan, they'll use it for other disasters. Fine by me.

Originally Posted by Ronin4hire (Post 857115)

No but Japanese government has money (or can produce it). So why do I need to give mine?

It's bullsh*t.

I would rather give to help a country that can't cope financially.

This is logic.

Originally Posted by kouichisan (Post 857119)

Buddy I hear ya, I added Haiti donation links to the thread I started to persuade people to donate toward Haiti also.

Originally Posted by Ronin4hire (Post 857124)

Thanks for at least listening to me even if we didn't agree.

Good luck with your aid work.

Originally Posted by MissMisa (Post 857123)

Psh, this is just going round in circles.

Originally Posted by kouichisan (Post 857126)

no worries. we both want to help in our own way.



I thought the thread would come to an end already, Ronin, there's no point. you want people to support Haiti, that's great. Start up a thread to encourage people to do so, and give them reasons why they should.

This is JF forum, so people have an attachment to Japan for whatever reason, so people are more willing to see it go toward Japan. But if you want people on this forum to donate to other countries also, then say why they should and they will begin to feel the same for them.

It's awareness, if you raise awareness properly, they WILL donate to Haiti and other causes. The way you are going about it, will make them reject your proposal even if the reason behind it isn't wrong. You're not being selfish thats great, just end this thread and start a new one.

Give people a background of haiti
the people caught up in the haiti disaster
give them more information
and provide them a way to donate and a way to help
and they will listen to u, if u do it like that.

Just a tip, so relax and end this thread.

Originally Posted by Ronin4hire (Post 857127)

What the f*ck dude.

I'm over it.

And I'm just pointing out that money is being wasted on Japan because the Japanese government runs the THIRD richest country in the world. It doesn't have to be Haiti that they donate to. Just somewhere that NEEDS money.

You quoted Misa not me.

Originally Posted by kouichisan (Post 857129)

British Red Cross Quote - "In the event that we receive more donations to the Japan Tsunami Appeal than the Japanese Red Cross and International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement can reasonably and efficiently spend, any surplus funds will be used to help us prepare for and respond to humanitarian disasters both here in the UK and overseas."

That means if there is remaining left over (which there will be for sure) it will be used on other projects. So it's not a waste, I'm guessing many people who wouldnt normally donate to charities have done so just because it is Japan. That extra money will still be spent on other projects.

Anyway, dude watch your language, I'm trying to help u.

Originally Posted by Ronin4hire (Post 857130)

The quote you gave me is irrelevant.

It doesn't address my point.

And you aren't trying to help.

You tried to offer me an olive branch with your "let's agree to disagree" bullsh*t then tried to undercut the point I made.

I don't need your help.

I'm making a perfectly rational point and I will continue to make it unless a) people stop challenging me on it or b) They make a point that is more rational that defeats it.

Originally Posted by kouichisan (Post 857132)

My answer to you is... nobody gives a fuck what u think because u cannot accept other peoples opinion. You want to always be right, this is why nobody listens to your argument. Whether it is right or not. Your attitude is totally wrong. Stop swearing.

Originally Posted by Ronin4hire (Post 857134)

Well obviously people do give a f*ck because this thread has over 2000 views and close to 200 replies.

My attitude is not "wrong".

And of course I always want to be right. Everyone does.

Oh and you're a hypocrite... I highlighted the part I'm talking about. But I'm not offended by your swearing. We're both adults after all.