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hitotsz 03-30-2011 04:14 AM
How much is the cheapest rent you can get in Japan?
 
I read about capsule hotel and sleeping in Internet cafe. What would be the cheapest option?

Also what is the feasibility of an American citizen going to Japan to get a job as a hotel housekeeper or clerk for konbini stores in this economy?

Nyororin 03-30-2011 05:09 AM
Sleeping in a capsule hotel or cafe is definitely NOT cheap in the long run. Think of it more as a "last resort" sort of thing and not a normal option.

The actual cheapest option in the long run would be to rent a cheap room somewhere that is not Tokyo. Rooms are quite expensive there - even the crappy ones from what I understand.

Around here you can find rooms in the 20,000~25,000yen/month range pretty easily. Definitely less expensive than the 4500~6000/night of a capsule or the 1000~1500/night for crappy sleep in a cafe chair.

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Also what is the feasibility of an American citizen going to Japan to get a job as a hotel housekeeper or clerk for konbini stores in this economy?
The economy isn`t the issue - your visa is. If you have a visa already that allows you to be in Japan and can speak Japanese... You can get pretty much any type of minimum wage (or there about) job out there.
But none of those will get you a visa, and without a visa you cannot be hired.

RealJames 03-30-2011 11:42 AM
love hotels and internet cafes for short term, gaijin shared houses for a few months
that's my experience..

hitotsz 03-30-2011 02:02 PM
How cheap a rent could you get in Nagasaki? Osaka? Okinawa?
How much could you expect to earn from Konbini job? What level of JPLT should you pass to get the Konbini job?

RealJames 03-30-2011 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by hitotsz (Post 859414)
How cheap a rent could you get in Nagasaki? Osaka? Okinawa?
How much could you expect to earn from Konbini job? What level of JPLT should you pass to get the Konbini job?
aspiring to work at a convenient store... you're a sad sad pathetic poor miserable unfortunate person....

and

you won't get any immigrations officer in all of Japan to allow a work visa for that job hahahaha...
"Yes sir, I am positive that I am providing a service that can not be provided by Japanese citizens"
more like you'd do it worse lol

WingsToDiscovery 03-30-2011 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by RealJames (Post 859427)
aspiring to work at a convenient store... you're a sad sad pathetic poor miserable unfortunate person....

and

you won't get any immigrations officer in all of Japan to allow a work visa for that job hahahaha...
"Yes sir, I am positive that I am providing a service that can not be provided by Japanese citizens"
more like you'd do it worse lol
Dude this is what I'm talking about when I use weeaboo. Someone is legit delusional enough to go as low as trying to get a conbini job in the hopes of somehow making it to Japan. These are really people's aspirations? My mind has melted.

RealJames 03-30-2011 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by WingsToDiscovery (Post 859428)
Dude this is what I'm talking about when I use weeaboo. Someone is legit delusional enough to go as low as trying to get a conbini job in the hopes of somehow making it to Japan. These are really people's aspirations? My mind has melted.
Honestly if I gotta choose between that and the dumbasses from a certain part of europe using obscene sophism to try to instill panic in a nation of people that have already been shaken and devastated by a natural disaster all under the veil of humanitarianism ... I'll take the idiot that isn't smart enough to turn his idiocy against others.

MMM 03-30-2011 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by hitotsz (Post 859352)
I read about capsule hotel and sleeping in Internet cafe. What would be the cheapest option?

Also what is the feasibility of an American citizen going to Japan to get a job as a hotel housekeeper or clerk for konbini stores in this economy?
Sleeping in the park inside a cardboard box is your cheapest option.

Keep in mind you cannot get a job without an address, and cannot get an address without a residence.

Why people aspire to live like homeless people in Japan is beyond my comprehension.

RealJames 03-30-2011 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 859440)
Sleeping in the park inside a cardboard box is your cheapest option.

Keep in mind you cannot get a job without an address, and cannot get an address without a residence.

Why people aspire to live like homeless people in Japan is beyond my comprehension.
It's got to be an illness... I mean it's not right... something is broken somewhere!

It feels like these days it's either evacuate! leave! escape! run for your dear lives! or ... "if I can go so far as to lick the filth out of homeless Japanese people's toe nails, will they share their 3 year old underwear with me?"

hitotsz 03-31-2011 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Nyororin (Post 859363)
Sleeping in a capsule hotel or cafe is definitely NOT cheap in the long run. Think of it more as a "last resort" sort of thing and not a normal option.

The actual cheapest option in the long run would be to rent a cheap room somewhere that is not Tokyo. Rooms are quite expensive there - even the crappy ones from what I understand.

Around here you can find rooms in the 20,000~25,000yen/month range pretty easily. Definitely less expensive than the 4500~6000/night of a capsule or the 1000~1500/night for crappy sleep in a cafe chair.



The economy isn`t the issue - your visa is. If you have a visa already that allows you to be in Japan and can speak Japanese... You can get pretty much any type of minimum wage (or there about) job out there.
But none of those will get you a visa, and without a visa you cannot be hired.
What are the ways to get a visa?

What is the cheapest option in Tokyo and how much would it cost?
A Korean blogger who have worked in Combini wrote that a 朝鮮族 (Korean Chinese) worked a night shift in a Tokyo Combini earning 280,000 yen/mo. which comes out to be $3382. http://flypo.tistory.com/328

Would you save more working in Combini in Tokyo or smaller cities like Nagasaki when you subtract the cheapest lodging options, respectively?


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