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alicewonderland 04-04-2011 02:43 PM

Radiation in Japan!
 
:eek: Temporary shelters and hospitals refuse to accept for fear that they can spread radiation! Now they are required to certificates that they are not exposed to radiation. 49-year-old Takayuki Okamura, one of the Fukushima hospitals refused to treat skin rash from his eight-year daughter, and it was quite a shock for parents... Read more: Last News: Japan Earthquake

RobinMask 04-04-2011 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by alicewonderland (Post 860165)
:eek: Temporary shelters and hospitals refuse to accept for fear that they can spread radiation! Now they are required to certificates that they are not exposed to radiation. 49-year-old Takayuki Okamura, one of the Fukushima hospitals refused to treat skin rash from his eight-year daughter, and it was quite a shock for parents... Read more: Last News: Japan Earthquake

I admitedly haven't read the article given, but I am sceptical about what you just said. I mean, can radiation even be spread from person-to-person? If it could then people who get x-rays or chemotherapy would be in isolation, surely? I'm not a scientist, but I doubt shelters and hospitals are turning away people unless they have ceritificates to say they aren't full of radiation.

godwine 04-04-2011 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RobinMask (Post 860168)
I admitedly haven't read the article given, but I am sceptical about what you just said. I mean, can radiation even be spread from person-to-person? If it could then people who get x-rays or chemotherapy would be in isolation, surely? I'm not a scientist, but I doubt shelters and hospitals are turning away people unless they have ceritificates to say they aren't full of radiation.

I am a bit skeptical myself, not because of my view on how radio intoxication are spread, but the source of this news. This is a blog post, and its not from any trusted news paper sources. Now I have to admit, i couldn't open the link in the blog, when i did, it kept going around in a loop doing nothing..

GoNative 04-04-2011 03:39 PM

Just another 1st time poster posting absolute BS. It's getting very tiresome...

siokan 04-04-2011 03:54 PM

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As for dermatitis by the radiation, the hospital that can treat is limited.

"Do the radiation measurement for the investigation of cause. "

It converts it into hysteric sentences.
Last News: Japan Earthquake

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Lien 04-04-2011 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by godwine (Post 860169)
I am a bit skeptical myself, not because of my view on how radio intoxication are spread, but the source of this news. This is a blog post, and its not from any trusted news paper sources. Now I have to admit, i couldn't open the link in the blog, when i did, it kept going around in a loop doing nothing..

Hover above it and click at the right moment.

Radiation can spread from person to person. You can be infected on the outside (radiation on your skin) or on the inside (urine, fesces, ...) and if someone comes in contact with you then this person could get infected (probably will).

protheus 04-04-2011 05:13 PM

Afroman - Because I Got High , I think this is why the OP made this thread.

JohnBraden 04-04-2011 06:13 PM

I heard about this report a week ago and I can believe it can happen. Hospitals have turned away patients they don't want to treat in the past. That, added to the paranoia that people can have when they're not fully informed of something can lead to these occurrences....

godwine 04-04-2011 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnBraden (Post 860207)
I heard about this report a week ago and I can believe it can happen. Hospitals have turned away patients they don't want to treat in the past. That, added to the paranoia that people can have when they're not fully informed of something can lead to these occurrences....

I believe this could happen too, I think it is actually very common and typical in Japan that hospital will turn patients away. There are enough drama by NHK and Fuji conveying this message. I just didn't trust the source because it being a blog post and not a trusted newspaper source

josebrown 04-04-2011 08:46 PM

It stories like this that makes me think "Hell yeah, America is awesome". Because whatever problems are here, they wouldn't turn you away from a hospital.

RobinMask 04-04-2011 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by josebrown (Post 860231)
It stories like this that makes me think "Hell yeah, America is awesome". Because whatever problems are here, they wouldn't turn you away from a hospital.

That statement is so flawed I don't know where to begin . . .

Suki 04-04-2011 08:54 PM

I think special hospital-like centers should be set up to take in people who have suffered radiation exposure. It's understandable they don't want to mix them up with other patients in hospitals, but they have to take care of them one way or another, that's for sure.

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Originally Posted by josebrown (Post 860231)
It stories like this that makes me think "Hell yeah, America is awesome". Because whatever problems are here, they wouldn't turn you away from a hospital.

They will if you can't pay for your treatment or can't afford medical care. It's funny you chose America of all places as an example. :rolleyes:

MMM 04-04-2011 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Suki (Post 860233)
They will if you can't pay for your treatment or can't afford medical care. It's funny you chose America of all places as an example. :rolleyes:

Feel free to look up Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act.

Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Your disdain for America is well-known, but don't spread untruths. :rolleyes:

RobinMask 04-04-2011 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 860238)
Feel free to look up Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act.

Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Your disdain for America is well-known, but don't spread untruths. :rolleyes:

Yes, but isn't that only for emergency care? And how does an 'emergency' get defined? I know the healthcare has been reformed of late, so my information may be out of date, but I heard that people get turned away all the time for various injuries/sicknesses for having the wrong insurance or their insurance not covering certain things. . .

I mean there's been cases of people holding up hospitals, and people going without meds/treatment, and I think it might have been you (sorry if it wasn't!) who posted a thread a while back criticising how many people couldn't get dental care and sometimes had to wait in huge queues for charities to give them work for free.

If an American citizen broke a leg or was giving birth or needed drugs for a rare/severe disease, and didn't have insurance, would they really not get turned away? Would they get the treatment they needed?

JohnBraden 04-04-2011 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by josebrown (Post 860231)
It stories like this that makes me think "Hell yeah, America is awesome". Because whatever problems are here, they wouldn't turn you away from a hospital.

That's true, but then those that can pay have to pay for those who can't. I'm not saying their health system is better than ours or vice-versa....

BobbyCooper 04-04-2011 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by josebrown (Post 860231)
It stories like this that makes me think "Hell yeah, America is awesome". Because whatever problems are here, they wouldn't turn you away from a hospital.

you couldn't be more wrong with this silly statement.

America still doesn't have an acceptable Health Care System. Obama tried to finally make it humanly, but failed hard.

You should have mentioned Canada instead, but hell no, not America..

Suki 04-04-2011 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 860238)
Feel free to look up Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act.

Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Your disdain for America is well-known, but don't spread untruths. :rolleyes:

You wanna bring that up again? Really?

You seriously need to stop obsessing over every single thing I say about it. I don't particularly dislike America. If I had such disdain, as you say I do, I wouldn't be looking into moving there, which I am, so stop making assumptions. Some things about America are wrong. Their medical care system is one of those things. Does that mean I hate America? No, it doesn't. You guys choose to not have a public medical system paid for with taxes. Are you gonna argue that too? You will probably try to, but whatever. America isn't known for having the best medical care system in the world, that's why I think it's funny someone would mention people don't get turned away in American hospitals. And since we're sharing links: Sicko.

RickOShay 04-04-2011 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by alicewonderland (Post 860165)
:eek: Temporary shelters and hospitals refuse to accept for fear that they can spread radiation! Now they are required to certificates that they are not exposed to radiation. 49-year-old Takayuki Okamura, one of the Fukushima hospitals refused to treat skin rash from his eight-year daughter, and it was quite a shock for parents... Read more: Last News: Japan Earthquake

Go away troll or lunatic (take your pick) please.

MMM 04-05-2011 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Suki (Post 860248)
You wanna bring that up again? Really?

You seriously need to stop obsessing over every single thing I say about it. I don't particularly dislike America. If I had such disdain, as you say I do, I wouldn't be looking into moving there, which I am, so stop making assumptions. Some things about America are wrong. Their medical care system is one of those things. Does that mean I hate America? No, it doesn't. You guys choose to not have a public medical system paid for with taxes. Are you gonna argue that too? You will probably try to, but whatever. America isn't known for having the best medical care system in the world, that's why I think it's funny someone would mention people don't get turned away in American hospitals. And since we're sharing links: Sicko.

I am not the one that brought it up. If what you said was true, I wouldn't have commented.

alicewonderland 04-05-2011 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by RickOShay (Post 860249)
Go away troll or lunatic (take your pick) please.

I'm not troll or lunatic! Do not be rude.

Why did not anyone vote? This is a special event and need to express your opinion! Thnx

protheus 04-05-2011 07:23 AM

How can I vote on something that I believe it's not true? Maybe there was a prick somewhere who refused one person, but that doesn't mean everyone is doing the same. This isn't a "trend", it's an exception.
I don't like any of the option you gave for the answer, so I won't vote.
I was for voting "C. This is just another bs news like all other post-earthquake Japan news that pop-up from nowhere on the net. I don't give a dime for it."

PS:That kind of "guy", if he/she was to operate on a AIDS patient without it's gloves, in case of an emergency I mean, he/she would have left that patient to die.

RealJames 04-05-2011 07:24 AM

Holy shit,

ok OP when people say things like "show your sources" it doesn't mean Jow Billy Bob's blog which links to itself and has grammatical mistakes in it etc...

the dude that thinks america is so awesome cuz regardless of what's wrong they don't turn you away, well.. sorry to shit on your face like this, but they don't turn you away unless its really bad, and then they usually try to collect their fee for the surface after, but that's life, your taxes are not paying for it so a person considering that saves that money that would have gone to tax for that rainy day when the bus hits you

having said that, I'm sure that if the same tsunami had hit west coast USA, hospitals would treat the victims first no questions asked, just as I'm sure they do in Japan. In other words, I'm not bashing the USA.
Although that dude that thinks the hospital wont turn him away regardless of what's wrong with him may want to know a tad more about where he's living...

godwine 04-05-2011 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by RealJames (Post 860269)
Holy shit,

ok OP when people say things like "show your sources" it doesn't mean Jow Billy Bob's blog which links to itself and has grammatical mistakes in it etc...

the dude that thinks america is so awesome cuz regardless of what's wrong they don't turn you away, well.. sorry to shit on your face like this, but they don't turn you away unless its really bad, and then they usually try to collect their fee for the surface after, but that's life, your taxes are not paying for it so a person considering that saves that money that would have gone to tax for that rainy day when the bus hits you

having said that, I'm sure that if the same tsunami had hit west coast USA, hospitals would treat the victims first no questions asked, just as I'm sure they do in Japan. In other words, I'm not bashing the USA.
Although that dude that thinks the hospital wont turn him away regardless of what's wrong with him may want to know a tad more about where he's living...

The OP's use of grammar makes me wonder if she came from the same family as bluejeanslady.....

RealJames 04-05-2011 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by godwine (Post 860283)
The OP's use of grammar makes me wonder if she came from the same family as bluejeanslady.....

I believe that this correlation is enough to form a reliable source and conclusion!
It's official!
Let's start a poll on the issue asking if it's not acceptable or simply ridiculous...

Lien 04-05-2011 03:06 PM

I think this topic should be closed. Most of us agree that the source is unreliable, right ? Ok, it happens, why not, we're not liking it but there's nothing you can do about it. And over here they teach us that the American and Canadian health care system is a fail, but then again we don't have a government so I'm not going to say we are any better. Let's keep to the topic and not discuss these systems, ok ? :3

MMM 04-05-2011 04:21 PM

With no sources quoted for such an important and timely issue, the topic is closed.


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