Not disputing that, but one has to realize there weren't that many films made at that time, they didn't have many theaters so the options were limited and there weren't that many forms of entertainment back then.

Never mind him, guys. He obviously has no clue what he's talking about.

Hah "not worthy" ...rrright. :rolleyes:

No, it's Avatar...

By far. :cool:

You are both right, it just depends how you crunch the numbers. Gone With The Wind has the highest American Domestic take, if adjusted for inflation, but Avatar has the highest worldwide gross (unadjusted).

Domestically (US) GwtW has almost twice the take as Avatar.

All Time Box Office Records - Box Office Mojo

Plus they didn't have as many western style theaters in much of the world dureing the time of Gone with the Wind.

While I liked Avatar....it can't match Gone with the Wind...."Frankly My dear ...I don't give a Damn." It's probably one of the most famous lines in movie history..what memorable line can Avatar produce? "I was afraid..for my people, but I'm not anymore"?....please....

I see you!

:D

Never seen Avatar and I don't know why I should..

As much as I would love to debate this, why Avatar is worth a watch is not what this thread is about. So I'm just gonna let this picture help you reconsider.



And before you say how being on top of that list doesn't make a movie good, it does make it worth watching, so that you can have an opinion after seeing it and bash it all you want. :)

The only thing Avatar has going for it is technology. It's very, very, very heavy in CGI. A very expensive/high-tech movie to make. Aside from that, if you're not into background/lore, which they invested in (language, species etc) then you won't see it as an amazing movie. The plot is not very original and the acting is not extra-ordinarily note worthy.

I think this movie grossed highly due to the big names behind it and, mostly, outstanding marketing.

In essence, I'd sum it up as glorified eye candy. IMO
definitely watch it to come up with your own opinion though, it never hurts.

I thought I would take a quick look at the top 10 Suki ;)

The only movies in this top ten list which isn't poor in my own eyes is Titanic and MAYBE the first Lord of The Rings. But other then those two.. also if you go on in those top Box Offices you won't find many good movies.. most them are rubbish to me, so the chance that Avatar strikes is very low right?



1. Avatar - Aufbruch nach Pandora (2009) $2,781,505,847
2. Titanic (1997) $1,835,300,000
3. Der Herr der Ringe - Die Rückkehr des Königs (2003) $1,129,219,252
4. Pirates of the Caribbean - Fluch der Karibik 2 (2006) $1,065,896,541
5. Toy Story 3 (2010) $1,062,984,497
6. Alice im Wunderland (2010) $1,023,285,206
7. The Dark Knight (2008) $1,001,921,825
8. Harry Potter und der Stein der Weisen (2001) $968,657,891
9. Fluch der Karibik - Am Ende der Welt (2007) $958,404,152
10. Harry Potter und die Heiligtümer des Todes - Teil 1 (2010)

Your probably right. But I thought without the 3-D effect it's even worse..

Avatar was basically Dances with Wolves..In Space...The CGI was astounding, visually the movie was awsome. Storywise it was predictable. Not bad mind you Suki, but like I said, it was just a space version of Dances with Wolves.

It's not the first Lord of the Rings movie but the third.

Yeah the plot is not original and it was easy to imagine how the story would turn out in the end. So what? A predictable storyline isn't necessarily a bad thing. Much on the contrary. In my script writing class I'm always told to NEVER suggest that something is about to happen unless I mean for it to happen at some point, so that the audience won't get frustrated. You have to give them the ending they want and it was clear that Avatar would have a happy ending and it was super clear right from the very first scene that Jake would fall in love with Neytiri and he'd live a happy life as a member of the avatar community for ever after. I don't see how the fact that the plot was predictable can be used as an argument to say it wasn't that much of a great movie.

Yeah of course there's that. Any piece of footage that has James Cameron's signature on it is bound to be a success, that's for sure.

The first one was the only one worth watching for me, it was original and new.. the rest was basically the same with a little more action.. but other than that a triology was way over the top for this saga.

One 3 hour movie would have been enough to be honest..

Sorry, I'm too much of a fan to answer this kindly so I'll just... let it go. :)

uuu. a fan you say? how did you like the plot-hole with eagles? :cool:

evanny, are none of the movies you love imperfect?

The eagles could not have carried Frodo to Mount Doom because they would have been seen and the Nazgul would have caught them and taken The Ring. One does not just fly into Mordor. Frodo had to slip in without being seen. Eagles would surely have caught Sauron's attention and would have sent the Nazgul after them.

So, not a plothole. Makes a lot of sense to me.

of course they have. i was simply curious since some LOTR fans get really touchy about this :)
fyi, i also love the trilogy.
...............
speaking of plot-holes, you guys know HowItShouldHaveEnded videos? i love them since they find cool ways to show how dumb something was, even in good movies.

Videos | How It Should Have Ended

P.S Suki, check out LOTR video . ;)

I don't find it funny. :(

There's only two scenes in the whole trilogy (extended version, that is) that -in my opinion- could have been improved. And one of them, which is the one in which Legolas jumps on the back of the Mûmakil and is shooting arrows at him like crazy, is explained in an interview with the head of the CG department, in which he explains how hard it was for them to make it look real so the computerized Legolas came out looking too much like a videogame character, but that's ok and it can be overlooked because of how hard it would have taken for them to make it look 100% realistic.

i think guys you are way too serious here ;] check my list

no particular order

world top 10

2001 oddysey
Schindler's List
rosemary's Baby
the godfellas
its a wonderful life
star wars
seven samurai
casablanca
shawshank redemption
the shining



personal top 10

Monty Python's The Meaning of Life
Aliens trylogy
Terminator 2
Die Hard 1
Mad Max
Police Stories - Jackie Chan
Fight Club
Kill Bill
Zatoichi
12 Monkeys
se7en

silent top 10

knight rider
the a team
Mc Guywer
Baywatch
Miami Vice
Laurel and Hardy
Hanna-Barbera productions
Police Academy
TMNT
Movies with louis de funes
Pink Panther with Peter Sellers

My Top 10 movie choices, must be... !

1. Jarhead
2. Spirited Away
3. Universal Soldiers (Favourite as a kid)
4. The Matrix
5. Howl's Moving Castle
6. Inception
7. Pineapple Express
8. The Hangover
9. Pearl Harbour
10. Avatar

Hohohoho! Couldn't remember my favourite movies. So I just mentioned a few good movies.

Do you mean me? Cause I never insulted anyone for thinking Casablanca doesn't deserve to be in a Top Ten.

The only good thing about Zatoichi is it inspired Tarantino to write Kill Bill. Other than that and maybe a couple of the geisha fighting scenes, I thought it was pretty disappointing but I won't think less of anyone for liking it. ;)

YAY! :)

I have been waiting to put up my list a little bit, just to see what people are putting up. I am afraid my list is going to look old and curmudgeonly, but you will see Seven Samurai in the Top 3.

Aha. Straightforward kinda guy, I see. :D

I thought the character was kind of naive, kinda hard to empathize with, so I got bored within the first few minutes. I get that with pretty much every Kitano movie. But then again, I hardly ever like any of the Japanese films I watch. I really tried to like them but I can't seem to get into them. Best one I've seen would have to be Ugetsu. At least it was unlike anything I've ever seen.

MMM, I took a class on Welles today. :) Got me thinking about what we discussed here a few days ago. We pretty much talked about The Magnificent Ambersons, the one he made after Citizen Kane, and apparently the RKO released a final version of the film that was totally different from what he had initially planned. He pretty much didn't get a say in anything and they included scenes that Welles didn't mean to put in the film. I wonder how much of that was the result of the failure that was Citizen Kane at that time. I didn't get to ask if Welles really had no one to answer to while he was filming Citizen Kane, but it got me thinking... despite having control over everything during the process, I think the RKO supervised the process closely.

Yes, Welles was put on a short leash after Citizen Kane, as, in the studio's eyes, it was not considered a success. It wasn't until a few years later people were able to take another look and appreciate it for what it was. (I believe it was the French critics that revived CK, although it was lauded by many critics stateside.) Even classic movies by Welles like Touch of Evil and The Third Man have major studio changes. A few years ago Criterion released what they think would be Welles' version of the film based on his notes and letters he wrote to the studio. Definitely worth checking out... one of the most amazing one-cut opening sequences of all time in Touch of Evil. The sound is just as incredible as the visuals.

Funny you should say that,I actually have a male friend that likes Twilight!
I can't comment on the quality of it really,I haven't seen it.

I love Lord of the Rings...Though really you need to watch the Extended versions, they are truer to the books. I read the books in 4th grade...way back in..77,78....took a while to read 1000 pages. I dont even mind some of the "liberties" they took.. Like there were no elves at Helms deep aside from Legolas..but it fit well with how the Movie was going.

The eagles flew into Mordor after they got rid of the Ring, so that's not a huge thing cause Sauron allready lost.

The Big element in the story was that Sauron was going to win no matter what anybody did. Sauron didn't need the ring to win. The good guys could only defeat him by destroying the ring...and only the two lowest dudes who nobody would notice could do it. Not Kings, or wizards or elf heros... but two shmucks from the farm.

Tell me about it! I wrote a 15-pages paper on this shot.

Quality production wise? High. Like, very.

I don't know why people hate the Twilight saga so much. I have not seen any of the movies or read the books, but I can see why it sells so well and why all the 15 year-olds are so hooked on it. I mean, it's no wonder it's a success. It has everything a good story needs to attract a huge audience (especially teenagers). What's there to hate about it? They know how to sell their product + vampires are so in vogue these days. I don't get why all the hate towards this Pattinson boy, really.

Some things happen in the books that didn't make it to the movies and some things happen in the movies that are nowhere in the books. No biggie. There's no way you can fit everything from a book into a movie. Adapting a book for a screenplay is about taking the essence of the story. It's not a picture version of the book you read, and people need to understand that. Plus it wouldn't work. I truly believe the Lord of the Rings would not have been half the success it is if the movies were any more true to the books.

memorable line
 

~This is how it's done. When people are sittin' on shit that you want, you make 'em your enemy. Then you're justified in taking it. (C)

Ok termogard, that's one too. Though I don't think it's that classic either.

Nor is "It's My mission to keep you alive..I will fail."

I think T-2's "Come with me, if you want to Live" Has more power.

classic tagine
 

And I think T-2's *There's no fate but what we make for ourselves* sounds way better :) The main idea was that ordinary people could break a chain of following events and prevent a global thermonuclear war.

I do? Oh well. If by commercial you mean having a high budget and being aimed at a wide audience, then yes.

Gone with the Wind is certainly up there.