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dogsbody70 01-11-2011 12:54 PM

its too long ago to remember but I took an instant dislike to him and the way he was sounding off. wish I could remember his name. It had a sort of dutch sounding name I think.

termogard 01-11-2011 01:28 PM

guns
 
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Originally Posted by Ryzorian (Post 845884)
When they kicked the UN inspectors out, that gave the US full authorization to invade.

No, they did not give anything to the US administration.

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Originally Posted by Ryzorian (Post 845884)
They had barrels of strictnine, enough to kill everyone in the state of NewYork, plus various older WMD types like mustard gas.

Strictnine? So what? Iraq had neither missiles nor heavy bombers to deliver a suitable amount of strictnine to American soil.

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Originally Posted by Ryzorian (Post 845884)
Perhaps a stable Iraq was the real threat to American interests and the destablization was done to inhance our influence in the region.

Creation of dozen thousands of America-haters after the destabilization meets your interest in the region, eh? No problem.:)

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Originally Posted by Ryzorian (Post 845884)
If you doubt the US, the only country to actually use nukes on someone else. Isn't capable, or willing to reduce an enemy country to a smokeing ruin, why make claims of them being all big and bad, if you yourself doubt they really are?

First of all, you dropped A-bomb on Japan having a monopoly on nuclear weaponry.
Nowadays, if you attack Iraq or Afganistan by combat nuclear devices , Russia, China and India will be involved due to radioactive poisoning of their territories. You will not hold the retaliation strikes.

Ryzorian 01-12-2011 06:39 AM

Yes, we had legal authorization. Iraq signed an armistace with conditions set, that saddam signed. Soon as he broke those conditions, the war from 91 was back on because it was never over.

Why do people assume WMD's have to be delivered by missle? They don't, some guy with a syringe can foul a water supply. Besides, wether he had missles with Strictnine or not didn't matter, he had the strictnine and THAT did.

Actually, we are creating dozens of thousands of tribal haters of other tribal groups, plus Iraqi's who don't trust Syrians, and Syrians who don't trust Jordanian's and Jordanian's who don't trust Saudi's and none of them trusting the Persians.

Again, if someone pushed the US into a cornor, they would use nukes. It's US policy and has been for 70 years. Those nations know this and wouldn't do anything to tip the scale in that direction. American anti missle technology is well beyound those nations capabilities of getting a ICBM anywhere near the Mainland.

It's partly why we get annoyed when North Korea plays with thier missle systems, we don't care how poorly thier systems work, what we don't want is to have to reveal how well our anti missle system does work.

dogsbody70 01-23-2011 11:05 AM

I just found this titbit about Albert Einstein and his influence on Roosevelt. I never knew that.

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He escaped from Nazi Germany in 1933, where he had been a professor at the Berlin Academy of Sciences, and settled in the U.S., becoming a citizen in 1940. On the eve of World War II, he helped alert President Franklin D. Roosevelt that Germany might be developing an atomic weapon, and recommended that the U.S. begin nuclear research. That research, begun by a newly-established Manhattan Project, resulted in the U.S. becoming the first and only country to possess nuclear weapons during the war. He taught physics at the Institute for Advanced Study at Princeton, New Jersey, until his death in 1955.

this item is interesting about the Manhattan Project.

Manhattan Project - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

cyberbemon 01-23-2011 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Ronin4hire (Post 845529)
Dude.. read the reports that were leaked by Wikileaks for yourself!

Countless after action reports regarding US soldiers killing civilians. These reports were often filed by soldiers THEMSELVES.

Now they weren't ALL war crimes in the sense that the soldiers are following the rules of engagement (though it has been argued that some of them are).

But that has never been the allegation.

And don't get me started on Vietnam.

QFT !.........

Ghap 01-23-2011 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Ryzorian (Post 846033)
Yes, we had legal authorization. Iraq signed an armistace with conditions set, that saddam signed. Soon as he broke those conditions, the war from 91 was back on because it was never over.

Why do people assume WMD's have to be delivered by missle? They don't, some guy with a syringe can foul a water supply. Besides, wether he had missles with Strictnine or not didn't matter, he had the strictnine and THAT did.

Actually, we are creating dozens of thousands of tribal haters of other tribal groups, plus Iraqi's who don't trust Syrians, and Syrians who don't trust Jordanian's and Jordanian's who don't trust Saudi's and none of them trusting the Persians.

Again, if someone pushed the US into a cornor, they would use nukes. It's US policy and has been for 70 years. Those nations know this and wouldn't do anything to tip the scale in that direction. American anti missle technology is well beyound those nations capabilities of getting a ICBM anywhere near the Mainland.

It's partly why we get annoyed when North Korea plays with thier missle systems, we don't care how poorly thier systems work, what we don't want is to have to reveal how well our anti missle system does work.

This makes no sense.

First of all you make points about how missiles arnt needed.

Then you point out how superior you feel about your missile defences.

What argument are you making?

Ryzorian 01-25-2011 02:42 AM

It's actually two different statements, I accidently took out the inbatween paragraph.

The first one was in reguards to wether Saddam actually had WMD's or the missle warheads that could deliver them. To wich I responded that according to the armistice he signed that didn't matter anyway, because he broke the terms of the armistice. Wich had nothing to do with WMD's or missles.

The second is that North Korea is constantly showing off it's "missle capability". Iran tends to do this every so often too. Since the US's anti missle system is far more advanced that anyone had been led to believe, rendering any older style ICBM technology, like say North Korea or Iran has, obsolete. Some guy walking into a crowded football stadium with a gas canister, is far more of a threat than missles, in today's atmosphere.


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