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Teris 06-02-2010 02:24 AM

Buying yen?
 
Can someone tell me what the best way to exchange US dollars for Yen? I've been told to use ATMs in Japan (7-11 bank), but my bank (Wells Fargo) charges me $5 per transaction. Would I be better off bringing international travelers checks or US cash with m and exchanging at a Japanese bank? Thanks for any help you can offer!

MMM 06-02-2010 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Teris (Post 814016)
Can someone tell me what the best way to exchange US dollars for Yen? I've been told to use ATMs in Japan (7-11 bank), but my bank (Wells Fargo) charges me $5 per transaction. Would I be better off bringing international travelers checks or US cash with m and exchanging at a Japanese bank? Thanks for any help you can offer!

I thought I answered this question on one of your other threads, but maybe that was something else.

Do bring: yen in cash, credit cards (VISA seems to be the best)

Do not bring: American cash, traveler's checks, ATM cards, pre-paid VISA cards

Change your cash to yen before you go. You can EASILY lose an entire afternoon trying to find a place that will exchange traveler's checks for cash or an ATM that works with your card.

Teris 06-02-2010 05:28 AM

Thanks MMM. I did ask how much to bring, so I apologize if you answered this already as I wasn't focused on yen versus dollars until I thought about it today. I'm surprised that ATMs are hard to find with Visa ATM cards. We have Visa cards, so we're set there. Hopefully we can find some yen before we go.

GoNative 06-02-2010 05:45 AM

The banking system in Japan compared to most other developed nations is archaic at best. On the whole cash is king in this country but more and more places are accepting credit cards. Up here in the northern reaches of Japan it's probably worse than in big cities like Tokyo. Definitely change your money in the US into Yen, you'll get much better rates than you'd be able to get here.

Teris 06-02-2010 03:55 PM

Just a quick update for anyone reading this making the trip to Japan from the US. There is a MUCH better exchange rate at Narita than at my local bank in the US (Wells Fargo). The best bet I'm seeing is to convert cash to travelers checks in the US and change them at Narita to yen if getting travelers checks is free for you or very cheap. There may be even better rates at post offices and other banks in Japan, but that is harder to determine. This differs from much of the advice I've read on the forum, but I've confirmed it with my bank (they told me not to convert to yen in the US at all) and comparing the exchange rates offered at Narita.

MMM 06-02-2010 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Teris (Post 814104)
Just a quick update for anyone reading this making the trip to Japan from the US. There is a MUCH better exchange rate at Narita than at my local bank in the US (Wells Fargo). The best bet I'm seeing is to convert cash to travelers checks in the US and change them at Narita to yen if getting travelers checks is free for you or very cheap. There may be even better rates at post offices and other banks in Japan, but that is harder to determine. This differs from much of the advice I've read on the forum, but I've confirmed it with my bank (they told me not to convert to yen in the US at all) and comparing the exchange rates offered at Narita.

Aren't you getting in late in the evening? Make sure they are open when you arrive.

https://www.foreignexchangeservices....action=convert

Exchange Information

Looking at the Wells Fargo site and the Narita site, the exchange rate is about 1 penny better at the airport.

If that is worth more than the peace of mind knowing you will have the cash ready to get on the train or bus from the airport, then come to the airport with American cash or traveler's checks. But realize if your plane is delayed at all, you will be spending the night in the airport until the exchange counters open in the morning.

Teris 06-02-2010 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 814113)
Aren't you getting in late in the evening? Make sure they are open when you arrive.

https://www.foreignexchangeservices....action=convert

Exchange Information

Looking at the Wells Fargo site and the Narita site, the exchange rate is about 1 penny better at the airport.

If that is worth more than the peace of mind knowing you will have the cash ready to get on the train or bus from the airport, then come to the airport with American cash or traveler's checks. But realize if your plane is delayed at all, you will be spending the night in the airport until the exchange counters open in the morning.

Thanks, MMM. You've been a HUGE help in planning this trip for us. Thank you for taking the time to help out travelers to Japan. As I mentioned in that other thread, I was mistaken about my arrival time. I get in late in the afternoon.

For $100 at Wells Fargo in the US, I get 8,785.80 yen. At Narita, I get 9032 yen (from travelers checks). So yeah, it's really not too much of a difference.

MMM 06-02-2010 05:51 PM

My pleasure.

What you are going to want to find out is, 1) Does that bank in Japan actually accept traveler's checks (not all do) and 2) Is there a hidden fee for processing we don't see there? At the rate you are being quoted for TC, it is practically charity work for the bank...they are making almost no money on the exchange, so I can't help but wonder what the motivation would be.

Charging 3 yen/pennies on the dollar is pretty standard. Personally, after a long flight like that the last thing I would want to have to do is one more thing that I could have done back at home.

Teris 06-02-2010 08:34 PM

No, I understand. I called my bank and there are no local banks that even have yen. They need to order them. So I don't even have the option to bring yen with me. I'll report back when I return how it all worked out. Thanks again.

MMM 06-02-2010 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Teris (Post 814128)
No, I understand. I called my bank and there are no local banks that even have yen. They need to order them. So I don't even have the option to bring yen with me. I'll report back when I return how it all worked out. Thanks again.

They can't get it in a day or so? Make sure they aren't just being lazy.

Teris 06-02-2010 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 814131)
They can't get it in a day or so? Make sure they aren't just being lazy.

They told me three days, but I leave tomorrow morning anyway, so it won't help me.

Thanks again for all of your help!

MMM 06-02-2010 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Teris (Post 814133)
They told me three days, but I leave tomorrow morning anyway, so it won't help me.

Thanks again for all of your help!

If they really wanted to, they could get it. But have a good trip, and let us know how it goes.

GoNative 06-03-2010 12:51 AM

Interesting that you can get better rates in Narita. From Australia people always get much better rates from Aus banks before leaving than what they can get here in country.

Teris 06-03-2010 01:16 AM

I think it's very dependent on timing. I know for a fact that a couple of years ago, one could get better rates in the US than in Japan. I will report back when I get home to let people know if there are any other charges that occur at Narita. If not, I will get a pretty good deal on the exchange because the travelers checks were free at my bank.

Teris 06-04-2010 10:14 PM

I changed my money at Narita yesterday with no problem. I had US TC and I got a rate of 91.26, which was the current rate listed at Narita on the website. There were no other fees. Because I got free traveler's checks, I think this was a very good deal. I'll be on the lookout for higher rates while I travel. Thanks to everyone for their input.

jbradfor 06-05-2010 03:33 AM

If you are using your ATM card as an ATM card (as opposed to a debit card) to get cash, you are not going though the visa or mastercard system, you are going through a different system. The big ones (in the USA) are Cirrus and Plus. [Wells Fargo uses Plus.] So you want to check the back of your ATM card which system(s) it use(s), and look for ATMs that use that system.

Also, even a US$5 charge per ATM withdraw is not that bad. If you take out the equivalent of USD500 each time, that's only a 1% service charge. That's better than using pretty much any US-issued credit card outside the US. [Almost all US-issued credit cards charge a 3% fee for foreign transactions.] [If your ATM withdraw limit is less than 500 a day, call Wells Fargo and ask them to raise it.]

discoiskinky 06-24-2010 09:51 AM

For Australian's I recommend ordering your Yen via Travelex - they charge no fee's if you book you cash online and they have competitive rates.

I also used their cashpassport visa card as i found the exchange rate and fee's involved were cheaper then using my regular visa card from my bank - some banks have ridiculous exchange fee's for using your card abroad.

Whitey14 09-14-2010 08:56 PM

I would advise against travellers cheques. Ive been to Japan once, and it was a nightmare sitting around in banks waiting for them to be processed...


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