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DeathcoreFranky 05-06-2008 02:36 AM

kanji tattoo help
 
I got a tattoo the other day of a kanji symbol meaning demon and i didn't have a picture of it on me and so i trusted that the shop would have the right symbol and now i can't find it anywhere so i don't think it means demon and i'm really frustrated, i really need someones help.

heres a couple pictures


tommasi 05-06-2008 03:08 AM

I mean it looks kind of like that but not quite right.

It should be written like this and if you wanted a demon/evil, it should have been 悪魔 but one letter would have looked better anyways so it doesn't matter.

It also looks like 鹿, which means a deer.

DeathcoreFranky 05-06-2008 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by tommasi (Post 482726)
It should be written like this.

ya i know it is i was wondering what the one on my neck means cuz im pretty much stuck with it now that was probly the stupidest decision ive ever made

tommasi 05-06-2008 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DeathcoreFranky (Post 482727)
ya i know it is i was wondering what the one on my neck means

As long as I know, it doesn't mean anything because it's a fake kanji.

It's just like those ball players like Marcus Camby who has 勉族 and it doesn't mean anything.

Hatredcopter 05-06-2008 03:22 AM

I agree it does look quite a bit similar to the 'deer' kanji. You sure person at the tattoo parlor didn't misunderstand you? Demon.. deer.. demon.. deer.

DeathcoreFranky 05-06-2008 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Hatredcopter (Post 482730)
I agree it does look quite a bit similar to the 'deer' kanji. You sure person at the tattoo parlor didn't misunderstand you? Demon.. deer.. demon.. deer.

haha ya im sure cuz i picked it out of the book and underneath it it said demon i made sure cuz i dint want this to happen and well it did

tommasi 05-06-2008 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Hatredcopter (Post 482730)
I agree it does look quite a bit similar to the 'deer' kanji. You sure person at the tattoo parlor didn't misunderstand you? Demon.. deer.. demon.. deer.

I mean it's a miracle if those tattoo parlors have correct kanji prints...

DeathcoreFranky 05-06-2008 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by tommasi (Post 482732)
I mean it's a miracle if those tattoo parlors have correct kanji prints...

i know that now

tommasi 05-06-2008 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DeathcoreFranky (Post 482731)
haha ya im sure cuz i picked it out of the book and underneath it it said demon i made sure cuz i dint want this to happen and well it did

Just don't show it to Chinese or Japanese person. Otherwise nobody would notice.

DeathcoreFranky 05-06-2008 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by tommasi (Post 482735)
Just don't show it to Chinese or Japanese person. Otherwise nobody would notice.

Do u think that theres anyway i could slightly alter it to make a different word or for that matter a word

MMM 05-06-2008 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by DeathcoreFranky (Post 482737)
Do u think that theres anyway i could slightly alter it to make a different word or for that matter a word

Wow...I think you should think about a tattoo eraser and a small claims suit.

tommasi 05-06-2008 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DeathcoreFranky (Post 482737)
Do u think that theres anyway i could slightly alter it to make a different word or for that matter a word

I strongly agree with MMM.

I don't see how you can modify is cos I can't think of any and to be honest with you, there aren't any that is close to it.

It's only $25 to file for a small claim so that is your best luck.

TalnSG 05-06-2008 04:26 AM

I agree. But file the suit before you have it erased. And get some good quotes for the removal from the best dermatologist you can find so you know what sort of damages to sue for. The artist should have declined to do it.

Makes me very glad that I research my "Silver Bear" in several languages before giving the kanji to the tattoo artist.

NickVelvet 05-06-2008 05:42 AM

This is the perfect example of why you should always make sure you know what you are getting inked on your body. Always do your research and then do some more. The artist may have just pulled it out of a book he had, or flash off the wall regardless if its right or not.

I recall a couple years ago of a tattoo artist in the Boston who was tired of people not doing thier research. On a number of occasions he tattooed something other than what the customer requested. One woman wanted "princess", however he tattood something like "slut". She was unaware until one day she was in a food court and some girls were giggling behind her since they knew what it really meant.

You can try taking them to small claims, but I dont know how far you will get. The artist should have allowed you to preview it once it was placed from a stencil or his drawing to ok it. Also you more than likely signed a release releasing the shop and its employees from all liability.

It will cost you more to have it removed than the cost of the original tattoo. You could have a coverup done. Good luck.

DeathcoreFranky 05-06-2008 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by NickVelvet (Post 482762)
This is the perfect example of why you should always make sure you know what you are getting inked on your body. Always do your research and then do some more. The artist may have just pulled it out of a book he had, or flash off the wall regardless if its right or not.

I recall a couple years ago of a tattoo artist in the Boston who was tired of people not doing thier research. On a number of occasions he tattooed something other than what the customer requested. One woman wanted "princess", however he tattood something like "slut". She was unaware until one day she was in a food court and some girls were giggling behind her since they knew what it really meant.

You can try taking them to small claims, but I dont know how far you will get. The artist should have allowed you to preview it once it was placed from a stencil or his drawing to ok it. Also you more than likely signed a release releasing the shop and its employees from all liability.

It will cost you more to have it removed than the cost of the original tattoo. You could have a coverup done. Good luck.

ya it would cost atleast 6 times what i paid for removal im just gonna get it covered up its not really a big deal since im getting most of my neck tattooed already i could easily get it covered up and get the correct one behind the other ear this time ill do my research and bring the kanji 2 my artist i should probly also inform him that the kanji in his book is fake to prevent it from happening to someone else i wouldnt file a claim in the first place i dont think he even knew that it was fake considering hes only been at the shop for a couple months he probly assumed it was real it was my stupidity i should have known, anyways thnx for the help

TalnSG 05-06-2008 07:48 PM

rethinking this a bit....

If this was a fairly new artist, yes I would cut him some slack and definitely let him know about the mistake. He might even be able to cover it with something acceptable himself.

Most of the artists I know around here are old timers and know better, but at least one or two are not above being flippant about the customer's intent. Those I would fight, even if I knew it was a lost cause.

MMM 05-06-2008 08:15 PM

At the very least you should let them know thier book is wrong. They should do something to make it up to you.

NickVelvet 05-07-2008 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DeathcoreFranky (Post 482768)
ya it would cost atleast 6 times what i paid for removal im just gonna get it covered up its not really a big deal since im getting most of my neck tattooed already i could easily get it covered up and get the correct one behind the other ear this time ill do my research and bring the kanji 2 my artist i should probly also inform him that the kanji in his book is fake to prevent it from happening to someone else i wouldnt file a claim in the first place i dont think he even knew that it was fake considering hes only been at the shop for a couple months he probly assumed it was real it was my stupidity i should have known, anyways thnx for the help

Chalk it up to lesson learned. Its hard to find good artists. Ive been fortuate that alot of my friends are tattoo artist. In fact im hoping in the next year or so I will be learning to do them myself. Ive had about 6 different artists tattoo me. The most interesting being one that I got while in Tahiti by a guy who barely spoke English. He drew what I wanted freehand, but I had to keep checking to make sure he was doing what I wanted.

Like MMM said if your not happy he may make it up to you. Most artists are very particular, and their work is thier calling card. Granted in your case if its out of a book or flash off the wall its a bit different. Most will want to make you happy as they want the repeat business, and most of all "word of mouth" is worth its weight in gold.

Housetek 05-07-2008 09:22 AM

honestly i think there should be a lil thought or meaning behind tattoos..

why get Demon?

r u evil? or a demon?

either way, kanjis bit off.

Also my ex gf got Demon on her back.. i dunno why, but the meaning of the kanji has Changed to Charmed... not demon.

In japan, some kanjis can change.

i've seen cases where peoples Kanji is reversed or upside down even.

just dont go walking around Tokyo with random stuff written on ya.



if your gona get kanji done get it done in japan =P.

Housetek 05-07-2008 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by TalnSG (Post 483104)
rethinking this a bit....

If this was a fairly new artist, yes I would cut him some slack and definitely let him know about the mistake. He might even be able to cover it with something acceptable himself.

Most of the artists I know around here are old timers and know better, but at least one or two are not above being flippant about the customer's intent. Those I would fight, even if I knew it was a lost cause.

no..
you don cut "new" tattoo artists any slack. even on first day of work.

If they went thru the right channels and worked as a apprentice, he should know to make a rookie mistake.

DeathcoreFranky 05-07-2008 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Housetek (Post 483349)
honestly i think there should be a lil thought or meaning behind tattoos..

why get Demon?

r u evil? or a demon?

either way, kanjis bit off.

Also my ex gf got Demon on her back.. i dunno why, but the meaning of the kanji has Changed to Charmed... not demon.

In japan, some kanjis can change.

i've seen cases where peoples Kanji is reversed or upside down even.

just dont go walking around Tokyo with random stuff written on ya.



if your gona get kanji done get it done in japan =P.

what do u meen by changed as in faded to charmed?obviously i wouldnt go walking around with that i wont even do that here so my hair is covering it till i get it covered up .hey sure i will do u have a 1000 bucks for a plane ticket lol

DeathcoreFranky 05-07-2008 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Housetek (Post 483350)
no..
you don cut "new" tattoo artists any slack. even on first day of work.

If they went thru the right channels and worked as a apprentice, he should know to make a rookie mistake.

he isnt a new tattoo artist he just new to the shop he doesent know the flash thats there hes actually a very skilled artist that specializes in biomech but still i agree with you about not cutting him any slack

TalnSG 05-08-2008 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Housetek (Post 483350)
no..
you don cut "new" tattoo artists any slack. even on first day of work.

If they went thru the right channels and worked as a apprentice, he should know to make a rookie mistake.

While I would be less likely to go after a rookie's job, in a case where we are talking about someone who probably wouldn't know anything at all about kanji beyond the shop's flash and may not have had much experience dealing with customers wanting custom work, I would be willing to let them correct their error. If it were a seasoned artist, not acknowledging their lack of expertise with kanji and discouraging the customer from a possible mistake is totally unprofessional and inexcuseable.

Perhaps I am a bit more willing to factor in the artist's circumstances because I don't cut any slack for someone who walks into a tattoo shop and doesn't know EXACTLY what the hell they are putting on their body before the needle is even inked. The volume of tats that are done because of a whim and/or without the bearer having a clue to its full meaning (not the always just the current interpretation) is obscene.

SlitScan 06-03-2008 10:06 PM

Anytime you are getting a foreign language tattooed onto you, make absolutely sure you are getting what you /really want/.

Imaging getting the "word" 'colguy' tattooed on you forever when you asked for "smooth".

You can always try to get it covered up, but avoid this in the future man!

You'll be fine! :ywave:


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