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k0tska 10-05-2009 03:58 PM

Need help on identifying what this tattoo means ^^
 
Gus G - the guitarist of Firewind has been my idol since i was around 14, and he has this tattoo on his arm (see below), im not sure what language its actually in, or what it means, i was hoping that someone would be able to tell me. I was thinking of getting the tattoo in homeage, providing it wasnt something silly.
thanks for all your help :)



view the tattoo on his left arm

Nagoyankee 10-05-2009 04:01 PM

It says "Fire Wind".

k0tska 10-05-2009 04:06 PM

Haha, figures xD
What characters are those? Or are they letters?
Also is this Japanese?

SHAD0W 10-05-2009 04:47 PM

火風

To my understanding it could be either language.. but from a Japanese learners point of view, 火風 is Japanese for fire wind.

火 Fire (pronounced hi)
風 Wind (kaze)

Why would "fire wind" make sense?

Koir 10-05-2009 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SHAD0W (Post 775378)
火風

To my understanding it could be either language.. but from a Japanese learners point of view, 火風 is Japanese for fire wind.

火 Fire (pronounced hi)
風 Wind (kaze)

Why would "fire wind" make sense?

It's the name of the guitarist's band.

k0tska 10-05-2009 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SHAD0W (Post 775378)
火風

To my understanding it could be either language.. but from a Japanese learners point of view, 火風 is Japanese for fire wind.

火 Fire (pronounced hi)
風 Wind (kaze)

Why would "fire wind" make sense?

"Either language" you mean Chinese or Japanese?

How come his "wind" symbol looks a little different??
thanks

k0tska 10-05-2009 05:12 PM

Also, would anybody have a "caligraphic" version of these characters?
That look really suave and fancy? :P
thanks

SHAD0W 10-05-2009 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Koir (Post 775379)
It's the name of the guitarist's band.

*m'off to youtube*

oooo! I like! :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by k0tska (Post 775380)
"Either language" you mean Chinese or Japanese?

Yes. But I don't speak Chinese so I don't know.. They may have other meanings in Chinese.

Quote:

Originally Posted by k0tska (Post 775380)
How come his "wind" symbol looks a little different?

I think its cuz its either badly done or just too far away. Could be me having the wrong kanji too though cuz I'm only a begginner Japanese learner, but 風
is the only way I know how to say "wind".

Quote:

Originally Posted by k0tska (Post 775381)
Also, would anybody have a "caligraphic" version of these characters?

Do it yourself. They're pretty simple characters and stroke order doesn't seem to matter in caligraphy cuz to me they never look the way they do when printed or written in pen.. lol

k0tska 10-05-2009 05:27 PM

hehe maybe you see why i like them xD
and i got some pretty cool looking ones off the net, stuck them on top of eachother, but i dunno what i should do about making it look more jazzy for my own tattoo hehe

knucKles 10-05-2009 09:23 PM

As far as my Japanese skills go I'd say the reading is "hi-fuu". You use the on-reading for 風.

SHAD0W 10-05-2009 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by knucKles (Post 775411)
As far as my Japanese skills go I'd say the reading is "hi-fuu". You use the on-reading for 風.

Oops! An amature mistake!

knucKles 10-06-2009 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SHAD0W (Post 775414)
Oops! An amature mistake!

No worries. I'm an amateur too. :) I could also be wrong...

Nagoyankee 10-06-2009 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knucKles (Post 775437)
No worries. I'm an amateur too. :) I could also be wrong...

lol You're the one who should worry, not SHADOW.

Why read 火 Kun and read 風 On? Wrong combo.

knucKles 10-06-2009 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Nagoyankee (Post 775438)
lol You're the one who should worry, not SHADOW.

Why read 火 Kun and read 風 On? Wrong combo.

So you got the right answer then? I tried "ka-fuu" but if you hit the spacebar to convert into Kanji it came up with some bullshit. When I type "hi-fuu" and spacebar, 日風 comes up first but the following suggestion is 火風. If you have a better answer, let me know and I start to worry.

Nagoyankee 10-06-2009 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by knucKles (Post 775440)
So you got the right answer then? I tried "ka-fuu" but if you hit the spacebar to convert into Kanji it came up with some bullshit. When I type "hi-fuu" and spacebar, 日風 comes up first but the following suggestion is 火風. If you have a better answer, let me know and I start to worry.

Did ya think I was a Yankee killin' time on JF or something? :confused: I'm a seasoned native speaker of Japanese.

on + on = good
kun + kun = good

kun + on = no good (except for the few kanji words that don't exist in Chinese but were later on created by the Japanese)
on + kun = no good (same as above)

There is a word 火風(かふう) but it's rarely used. It's not in the active vocabulary of the vast majority of Japanese. I don't think that guitarist knew the word and chose it for his tattoo. I think he just went for the literal translation of his band's name "Firewind" and someone gave him the two kanji.

Show 「火風」 to some Japanese and ask how to read it. Most of them will say 「ひかぜ? What is it?」 or 「かふう? What does that mean?」. If someone read it ひふう like you did, he should go back to school. We are strictly trained not to mix on's and kun's since 1st grade. 

knucKles 10-06-2009 01:25 AM

Please excuse my yankeeness. I will go back to primary school and try to become a seasoned native speaker.

MMM 10-06-2009 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by knucKles (Post 775446)
Please excuse my yankeeness. I will go back to primary school and try to become a seasoned native speaker.

Don't get frustrated. You'll never be a native speaker, so don't make that the goal. I think the reason it didn't show up together in your dictionary is because those two kanji together don't make an actual word.

Nagoyankee's being helpful, I hope you see that.

knucKles 10-06-2009 01:44 AM

Of course he's helpful cause he solved our problem. But some things can be expressed a bit nicer. Whatever... we know the Kanji now so we can go on and search for calligraphy.


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