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odonata 06-08-2008 03:43 PM

Standing sill in Tengu Geta
 
I have been a fan of Geta for a long time and have had a pair since 1983.
I have always wanted Ippon ba and as I found myself in Tokyo I bought a pair.

I tried them right away and found I was a natural. Many people I have let try them out have had big problems which I found strange. My first time in Tengu felt natural, I could walk and even run in them. The only thing I had trouble with was standing still.
Well today I mastered the technique and wish to pass it on to you.

To stand still or to be stationary in Ippon Ba...

First I will say that Tengu are not normal shoes and you can in no way expect them to behave in the same way.

The secret to standing still is firstly to do with the brain and secondly understanding what your body is giving in feedback.
The brain is used to standing on feet or in normal shoes so the messages it requires are defeated with tengu.

The way around this is to take your dominant foot (the one you kick with) and angle the toe forward, your passive foot should be just ahead of the dominant with the heal angled down.
I am right footed so...
Right is / and left is \ but only at a slight angle with the left foot slightly ahead of the right.

At first you will need a steep angle but as time goes by the angle and distance of the feet will decrease and soon it will look very natural.

I have been able to stand still like this for over 1/2 hour tonight speaking to people while not tottering around and looking off balance.

i hope this helps.

Marc.

Tsuruko 06-13-2008 07:29 AM

Have you tried Okobo?

I love Okobo, they have little bells inside, but they're so noisy! I have a pair, but I don't wear them much because they were really hard for me to find for a decent price.

I wear lots of Geta and Zori myself. I have worn, almost without exception, Geta for two years now. They're the most wonderful things for me to walk in. I don't have great ankles and I'm quite flat footed, so somehow, Geta are wonderful for me. I pretty much strive to own the most ridiculous pairs of Geta and Zori I can find. ( platform Zori?! count me in! )

I don't own a pair of tengu geta, as it's really hard for me to find a pair sized for my small feet. Most tengu geta are sized for men, so they're generally 10 inches plus, and I really need a 9 inch pair of geta to wear them properly, and even at 9 inches, I only get the smallest bit of heel hang. . . : /

I tell you, though, my dream Geta are Koma Geta, like the type the Oiran wear and do the figure 8 step. They're amazing! But I fear I will have to make my own pair, much to expensive! They're sold new for $1000+!

However, my favorite type of Geta to wear are the Komachi style!

Thanks for sharing your Tengu Geta secrets! I'll have to remember this for when I can finally snag a pair! Nice to find a fellow Geta enthusiast!

IonFortuna 06-13-2008 07:34 AM

I am a little lost... ...what are they? If you can, I'd like to see an Image.

Tsuruko 06-13-2008 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by IonFortuna (Post 513344)
I am a little lost... ...what are they? If you can, I'd like to see an Image.

Geta are traditional wooden sandals. : )


These are Tengu geta, notice the one "ha" or tooth of the stilt.


Those are Komachi Geta.


Typical Geta, two toothed style.


these are koma geta, I dream of owning these. . . .


These are Okobo, they're either worn by young children or Maiko-san ( apprentice Geisha. )

There's other types, but those are the most common. :)

IonFortuna 06-13-2008 08:37 AM

Thanks, you were very helpfull!!

Tsuruko 06-13-2008 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by IonFortuna (Post 513361)
Thanks, you were very helpfull!!

Glad to be of assistance. : )

Ookini!

IonFortuna 06-13-2008 08:54 AM

What does that mean?

Tsuruko 06-13-2008 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by IonFortuna (Post 513372)
What does that mean?

Ookini, you mean?

Ookini is Kyoto dialect for, "Thank you," versus Arigatou of standard dialect.

Kyoto dialect is know for its softer sound.

Desu becomes Dosu

Hai is Hei

IonFortuna 06-13-2008 09:09 AM

Wow, I didn't know that!!

Tsuruko 06-13-2008 09:12 AM

I am glad I could share a few tidbits of knowledge, IonFortuna.

There is so much to learn about Japan, especially cultural and traditional. I am still learning quite a bit myself. Shamisen is my current endeavor, it is a very tricky instrument to play, but sounds so beautiful. I am currently practicing, "Sakura, Sakura."

IonFortuna 06-13-2008 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Tsuruko (Post 513387)
I am glad I could share a few tidbits of knowledge, IonFortuna.

There is so much to learn about Japan, especially cultural and traditional. I am still learning quite a bit myself. Shamisen is my current endeavor, it is a very tricky instrument to play, but sounds so beautiful. I am currently practicing, "Sakura, Sakura."

I can play that on a Guitar!!!

Tsuruko 06-13-2008 09:24 AM

It's a pretty song, isn't it?

As soon as I can get it down pat, I plan on learning, "Gion Kouta," or, the Ballad of Gion. Gion is the famous Geisha district of Japan. : )

IonFortuna 06-13-2008 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Tsuruko (Post 513391)
It's a pretty song, isn't it?

As soon as I can get it down pat, I plan on learning, "Gion Kouta," or, the Ballad of Gion. Gion is the famous Geisha district of Japan. : )

Do you have the sheet music for it? I can read sheet music easily!!!

Tsuruko 06-13-2008 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by IonFortuna (Post 513394)
Do you have the sheet music for it? I can read sheet music easily!!!

No, I'm afraid I don't have sheet music. I read sheet music too, but I find learning Shamisen is a thing best learned by ear, which is how I have learned "Sakura, Sakura." I will most likely be learning, "Gion Kouta," the same way. :)

IonFortuna 06-13-2008 09:59 AM

Oh, I see. I don't know how to learn by ear yet...

Tsuruko 06-13-2008 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by IonFortuna (Post 513403)
Oh, I see. I don't know how to learn by ear yet...

It's a slow process that takes years to learn. I was actually continually trained and drilled to learn music by ear. Most of the time I had to directly notate from ear without even ever having an instrument at which to compare.

In some ways I am very glad to have learned such a skill, a skill that still needs a lot of polishing, yet at the same time, it took so much hard work and studying. Sometimes I would practice three hours a night. . .

IonFortuna 06-13-2008 10:10 AM

Wow, amazing!!

merveTurkey 06-13-2008 10:27 AM

hmmm....:)

merveTurkey 06-13-2008 10:28 AM

hmmm...:).

TalnSG 06-13-2008 02:15 PM

There is an interesting video on Japaensegeta.com of walking and standing in the Ippon ba. I am sure I could walk in them, but knowing my periodic gracefulness I would probably get so comfortable I would forget their limitations and walk to fast or take to long a stride and end up on the floor or with an ankle damaged (again).

I love my standard ones, but Amercians don't seem to care for the noise they make, so I am considering getting a few pair of komachi geta with the synthetic sole plates. I know they are designed for bette traction, but I am thinking they will muffle my steps a little bit.

Anyone know of a source for tabi socks that go up over the calf like knee-highs?

Tsuruko 06-13-2008 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TalnSG (Post 513504)
There is an interesting video on Japaensegeta.com of walking and standing in the Ippon ba. I am sure I could walk in them, but knowing my periodic gracefulness I would probably get so comfortable I would forget their limitations and walk to fast or take to long a stride and end up on the floor or with an ankle damaged (again).

I love my standard ones, but Amercians don't seem to care for the noise they make, so I am considering getting a few pair of komachi geta with the synthetic sole plates. I know they are designed for bette traction, but I am thinking they will muffle my steps a little bit.

Anyone know of a source for tabi socks that go up over the calf like knee-highs?

I do get quite a few weird glances myself! I get asked, "How do you walk in those!?" My answer is generally, "Quite easily!" I don't know where to procure the high ankle tabi. :) You could always go to Ichiroya.com and ask them if they might be able to find you a pair or two. :)

( oh hey. . . aren't you familiar? ;) )

rudolf 07-12-2008 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Tsuruko (Post 513341)
I tell you, though, my dream Geta are Koma Geta, like the type the Oiran wear and do the figure 8 step. They're amazing! But I fear I will have to make my own pair, much to expensive! They're sold new for $1000+!

Hi everyone!

Just came across this forum and thought I'd drop a note.

I have been a fan of stilted and platformed wooden sandals for many, many years. Of course this includes geta, especially the higher types like bankara, ippon-ba and koma geta, but also other types of wooden sandals. Obtaining a pair is almost impossible here in The Netherlands. Therefore I started making my own platform wooden sandals. It is really not that hard at all! Not being restricted by any fashion rules I could make them as high and outrageous as I wanted. So far I have made about 7 wearable pairs. They are not the geta-kind, since I haven't found the right material to make the V-shaped straps. In stead, they have a single strap over the toes. The pair I mostly wear in my leasure time is 15 cm high over the whole length, black laquered with a thick cotton orange-coloured strap. Believe it or not but they are really quite comfortable. I can walk in them all day long (with bare feet or socks). I can even drive a car in them!

cheers
rudolf

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Fashion50s 08-05-2015 12:34 PM

OMG! Geta... it's wonderful.
But it is very difficult for me if wanna have this. You have done this...Great!!!

stingyscoundreljapan 08-05-2015 02:46 PM

where is the best place to buy a pair?


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