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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 455683)

Kimono is not simply an "undergarment" but is the main thing. hakama and haori compliment the kimono. It's nit-picking, but true. Why would you think that I said you would wear a hakama or haori over nothing?

Technically "kimono" means "clothes" but ask any Japanese person, and what is "kimono" and 99% will describe the formal traditional wear.

I think you need to do a little more research. Mens and womens kimono are VERY different. The sleeves and colors differ depending on a woman's age and marital status, and women's kimono tend to have more patterns and feminine colors, where mens tend to be more plain, in blacks and grays.

As a man would you wear this?

oooiii xDDD
yes...mens' and women kimono ARE different x.x''''
the women's are generally more elaborate...whilst mens are naturally more subdued...though both can be quite decorative..depending on the occassion >.>""
also..the sleeves...at the back right under the armpit..the men's are closed, whilst the women's are open...

but the point i was pointing out...is taht the men's kimono, when worn alone, is, or can be considered, casual >.>"''
only w/ the hakama and haori is it formal >.>'
and w/ just the haori....well that's usually reserved for people of higher class =OO

and i wasn't calling the kimono and undergarment... x.x''
it "is" the main garment...but the fact that it goes "under" the hakama and haori..wouldn't it be natural to assume it as an "undergarment"???
x.x'''

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Originally Posted by yuujirou (Post 455694)

and i don't think they are "versions" for women...
women and men wear pretty much the same ...

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Originally Posted by yuujirou (Post 455694)

I think you need to be clear, because now I feel like you are contradicting yourself.

Although men's kimono may be considered more "casual", I can't think of a casual occasion in modern times when it is worn.

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 455699)

well damn modern times >.>"
that's this one's philosophy anyway ;3
haha ^^''

??? (((*(o_o)*)))

i thought that they love it when people dress unique and different !
yeah,i think you should be yourself !
you could even say you are trying to be different !
the worse thing that could happen,is that you will be look at
as a crazy new person !
and thats not so bad !:D

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Originally Posted by catapillera1 (Post 464450)

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funniest thing is that japanese (well most asians in general >.<''') tend to be uber uber conservative x]
they rarely open up to outside things~~ (buut then again x] aren't most countries/societies/civilizations like that?)

buuut meh :3
this one rather enjoys the outcast status ^_^

Gentlemen, if my sources are correct, a kimono for a man or woman may be formal or informal.

Women's kimono formality is generally recognized by material (polyester less formal than silk), color and amount of decoration, the obi material and style of tying, and sleeve length (not just determined by marital status).

The formal kimono for a wedding includes a furisode .... most often recognized by westerners by the extremely long sleeves. One version of the undergarment is a juban.

A woman does not require assistance to dress in a kimono, but she would be crazy to decline it.;)

If anyone wants extensive detail on this, check out the web site for Immortal Geisha and the numerous topics regarding kimono.

be original and dont be a slave to fashion, in my opinion, you shouldnt be a walking brand name
:)

good luck in japan!