Do you think overweight girls or thinner girls...
 

Pull off the lolita style better?
Do you think overweight girls should just stop wearing lolita?
Do you think brand should be made in bigger sizes
because thin girls don't look as good in it?
I always hear a lot of comments by people saying they hate
seeing overweight girls in lolita

I don't think a style should be limited to one's weight.

Well technically styles aren't limited to a certain body type because they're made in different sizes, however that's not to say that a certain body type looks better in certain styles or that a certain style was created for a certain body type. As far as Lolita go, i think it's usually the slimmer the easier it is to pull it off but I don't doubt those that aren't as skinny can also make it look cute and attractive.

I don't think you shouldn't wear whatever style you want just because of your size or be put off from doing so, but there's ways of doing it that will work better if you're larger, and ways that will work better if you're a stick. It's the same with any fashion; sorry, skin-tight leggings will not suit you if you're over a certain size, it'll only highlight your weight and look highly unflattering. Knee socks are dodgy at the best of times as they cut your legs in half and make your calves look balloony. Layers of lace can look bulky and lumpy regardless who's wearing it if it's poorly constructed. The kind of dress that comes with a kimono type top? A floor length victoriana skirt? Totally looks better on larger girls. So do I think larger girls look worse in Lolita than skinny girls? Only if they're doing it wrong. Too many (round here anyway) seem to try and go for the twagic goffic consumptive look and it neither flatters nor can be taken seriously.

But then a lot of skinny girls look god-awful in Lolita too.

In my personal opinion, bigger girls can't pull off most styles. But that doesn't mean they shouldn't be able to wear it.

let's put it this way, everyone has different body shapes, some girls, skinny or fat will pull it off better than others depending on their body shape. ;)

i think the worst thing a girl could do is to put on too much weight.i shouldn't talk though,i'm a beerboy myself.i know it's hard to give-up the things you like best.:vsign:

Style is about how pieces look on you. Some cuts do not look good on all people. Clothes should be tailored to even out disparity between body areas.

I am sure gothic lolita can be worn by everyone, just the pieces in question need to be properly cut and tailored in order to present a coherent look.

The biggest mistake we can make stylistically is to wear clothes that are too small or too large or don't fit right across our frame. The clothes may look great alone, but they'll always look wrong if they're not the right fit.

you took the words right out of my mouth.... >.> but yeah i think mostly slimmer girls should wear lolita clothing it just tends to look more natural, but that doesnt mean bigger girls should wear it either all though i havent seen any pic or any of them walking around but that doesnt mean they cant look just as cute, and plus it also depends on what you consider "overweight" i think that tends to be use to often to describe girls who arent even overweight at all.

i can honestly say that i most likely cannot pull off the "full" lolita look. especially my favorite type-the WaLoli. Kimonos look better on girls with smaller chests imo...i tried on a kimono once and it looked...lewd. plus i dont like the idea of having my breasts flattened down. not comfy at all.
but again like most people it depends on how the style of clothing is worn....it if doesnt feel comfortable you will not be comfortable.

Honestly no. It's a matter of dressing to suit your personality and flatter your figure.

First, kudos to all of you who acknowledged the fact that fashion is first and foremost an issue of approriate tailoring to one’s own body, not someone’s perception of who should wear it and who should not. Even better were the concrete examples.
But I find questioning of appropriate body types for counter-culture fashion fads rather ironic. At the core of such trends is an insistence on doing something counter to acceptable mainstream norms. The original goal of Lolita was to be outrageous, before the emphasis shifted to cute. What is more outrageous than a fashion style on a body that is clearly not suited to the foundation of the image?

It did. My first clues that the look was rebellion were (1) its name - from a scandalous work of fiction & film about a paedophile - "Lolita" and (2) the strong resemblance of the main look to that of the classic "french maid" from another genre of fantasies.

I definitely appreciate the attractiveness of the look when well suited to the person, but then the attractiveness become almost the sole element of the style. That's not bad, just proof that it has evolved.

It totally depends on who the person is. A lot of people were mentioning the build and type of body a person has and it really does make a big difference.

You must also know your fashion strengths and weaknesses where you can accommodate a certain style to look great on you.

I think a lot of people look good in lolita whether they're a stick or have a little pudge. :)

We all (well, most of us) know that some types of clothes suit us, while others don't.

Because of the vast range of Lolita styles, there is most likely something to suit everyone. And Lolita is not a restrictive fashion, it is very suitable for plus size or smaller girls because of the huge range of tailor made clothing. In the lolita world, comission of clothing is very common.

To be perfectly honest, I don't care how a person looks or dressed, I don't even care if they get it wrong in Lolita. I don't care if a big breasted lady wears and empire waist by mistake. As long as they enjoy it, and they feel pretty, then meh.

(Cosplay for me however is different, as I see it as a kind of art that has to be right/accurate, where as Lolita is a fashion. But that's subject to opinion. Lolita of course is an art too, and cosplay can be a fashion, but the two remain leaning towards one thing or another.)

i'm quite fat myself and i would never, ever, wear lolita clothing because i know i will look ridiculous.

wtf size doesnt matter

This one doesn't look ridiculous to me. Quite the opposite.

You're kidding, right?

Hmmm... Well, I think Lollita fits everyone, as long as they know how to dress... It's hard to get plus size lollita though (I'm not plus size myself, but my friend is...) She can wear stuff I can't wear, and I can wear things she can't! It's really sad that some people just can't get it right! I mean, there is so many "Stick" people wearing dresses that would fit a plus sized person so much better:rolleyes: The most important thing is that you feel comfortable in your clothes! Be yourself! Yeah, well I live in this small town, and everyone stares at us when we walk down the streets, and there is no stores at all that sell lollita:eek: This is most likely very confusing, my English is... Crappy?

I agree. Size doesn't matter.

That isn't Lolita. It's PVC for a start, and the blue lipstick is just... it's horrible. I'll be honest, I think that's awful, but I suppose it could be to some people's tastes.

Pfft, thats just what the fattys say.

*giggling* Oh my...it looks like she just cannibalized a smurf. Sorry Jason, she really does look laugh-out-loud ridiculous, but if it's any consolation, that has nothing to do with her weight.

in these parts, the lady would be classified as "emo" (the emotional one) :), and that is thanks to the amount of black colour on her dress :) and the obviously depressive look hihi, emo are also usually rough, rebelling, implying, and straight

while lolita i think, is closed up, shy, unsure, pretty soft and tender :)

also, i think that size could matter in expressing lolita nature, as raised body mass index may influence human behaviour (i would rather not go into details) but after all i am sure it is possible to perfectly express yourself as lolita in overweight condition, however the chances are diminishing simply because overweight person would prefer expressing themselves as brisk and temperament characters :P which i think lolita is not

no i don't think overweight ppl should stop wearing lolita, they should wear what makes them happy and makes them feel comfortable, or expressing their nature, even if it is lolita :D

Adjective
ridiculous (comparative more ridiculous, superlative most ridiculous)
Deserving of ridicule; foolish; absurd.
"Adam's hair is ridiculous."

And I, for the record, concur. Sorry, it doesn't look very nice IMHO. Among other things, the makeup looks like it was applied with an intercontinental missile.

Something so absurd that it makes another laugh just by being what it is. I really am sorry if this gets to you on a personal level, but there's just something about the combination of nudibranch mating a Paris Hilton wig, shiny bin-bag dress, dead fish stare and dead smurf lipstick that makes me have to bite my tongue to stop me laughing. It's a terrible outfit, but that's no comment on the girl, her personality, weight or appearance in other circumstances.

Actually, trying to imagine it without the horrible outfit, she might be quite attractive. Shame, really.

That's what I was thinking. Under all that pasty makeup is some quite nice bone structure.

I think people are allowed to say other people's fashion senses are ridiculous. As long as you aren't hurting anyone you can say what you like about someone elses fashion, it's probably best keeping your opinion to yourself if the person is physically in front of you because it's rude.

I dress in Lolita, Cosplay and so on regularly, but the way the girl has put together the outfit wouldn't flatter anyone. My fashion sense isn't typical either, and I've had far worse than someone saying my outfit is ridiculous. If that's as far as it went I'd be pretty happy with that :p

Pause please. Hypothetical worlds where this is considered the norm are all very well but they are exactly that; a myth. Sorry. Fact. This is the real world and I'd like to keep this discussion grounded in it. As it happens, blue lipstick is currently 'in vogue' at the moment in the UK. I have seen it done exactly once in a way that actually seemed flattering. Just because it's 'in fashion', doesn't automatically make something a judicious choice. Harem pants a prime example. In fashion last summer and now booed off stage by the fashion industry.

Point the second; I'm saying the ~outfit~ is ridiculous. Not the girl. Not even that particular style of fashion. That one outfit. So please stop generalizing me as the global oppressor of self-expression. I'm perfectly willing to say she might have outfits on a similar theme that work. This one doesn't. It makes her look silly. You can say that's just my opinion, and it is, but I'm certainly not alone in it. And I think there is certainly a point where something stops being opinion and starts being true. The habit doth not make the monk, but it sure disguises him as one.

Thirdly, seeing as you're bringing 'rights' into it, I think you'll find I'm perfectly in my right to say she looks ridiculous if I think so. Saying I have no right to express an opinion other than one you deem to be best is just as offensive as my expressing a negative opinion. She's within her rights to dress how she pleases and say it is beautiful. But she has no right to demand that I agree with her. And neither do you.

Besides, I never said I was the sort to go up to someone and say what I think of what they're wearing. Unless I really like it. As Misa said, it's just not nice. But that's not how things are in this case. YOU pinned this girl up as an example of 'not ridiculous' and invited opinion. I'm not out to shame anyone into changing their way of dress but I'm not going to be anything other than honest if you ask my opinion. Particularly not when the subject is a mere ~picture~ of someone I don't know, will never meet and who will presumably never hear my comments. Get a grip and stop making such a mountain out of a molehill. I'm starting to think this is a picture of your sister or something.

Which brings me onto my last point. You seem to assume that I dress 100% normal 100% of the time and therefore I am intolerant to this style of dress or else jealous because I don't have the guts to wear something that bucks the norm of society. How can you POSSIBLY comment? You have never seen me nor the contents of my wardrobe and I'm not about to disclose that sort of information on the internet. Just how biased and offensive is that assumption anyway? Because I dislike it, I must be just another repressed sheep with no idea about self-expression and thus my opinion isn't valid?