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Non-Asians copying 'Asian' styles/fashion tendencies
Alright, so this has been on my mind for a while. I'm all pro the freedom of styles and expressions.. But something that crossed my mind lately is how you all feel about 'white girls' or 'black girls' (a bit stereotypical here, I know) copying eg. the Japanese Gyaru style?
Something I've noticed a LOT-ALOTTA is how gyaru has spread like a disease (no offense, I like talking in pictures.. lol) all over Europe. Especially Finland has been captivated by the style.. As part of the beauty blogger community, I've noticed SO many Finnish girls dressing up Gyaru style with HUGE lenses and HUGE lashes.. Being Caucasian comes with big eyes already.. Just some examples of the girls - I'm not trying to hate on anyone; these are SIMPLY examples of what I'm talking about.. ![]() ![]() So, what do you guys think? Is it a bit too much or super cool? I know that huge lashes and lenses are part of the whole 'gyaru' thing, but personally I'd probably tone it down a bit - I'm white, lol. I already got big-ass eyes. Sorry about the big photos.. >_<" |
My personal opinion is that they got to tone it down. I mean if you have big eyes already why make them bigger. They kind of remind me of Lady Gaga's eyes in one of her videos. |
I think it's stupid. I know a lot of people who refer to them as "awfuljin."
It's really funny you mentioned this because I was leading a tour through Harajuku and Shibuya yesterday, and right outside of 109 there were these two gaijin girls totally dressed up in like gothic-lolita outfits, with the parasols and stuff. I was interviewed on TV earlier in the day as I was ordering a Turkish kebab, and the same crew was now filming these girls and asking them questions. They really just try WAY too hard. I was also in Akiba around Christmas and there were a group of gaijin maids advertising their maid cafe. They were really dumpy and totally not something I would ever pay for, but if that's what some Japanese guys are into then I can't knock them for it. It was just so awful seeing these unattractive gaijin girls trying to be maids. I'm scarred. (I should note that I'm talking about gaijin who try and do all Japanese styles in particular, not necessarily gyaru) |
I think it's great that they feel inspired - but I'd probably (for my particular style, if I were to try this) tone it down to fit my own features. Asians have small eyes and small irises. They use circle lenses to make them appear bigger.. white girls using circle lenses is like.. chicks on crack or something. I'm not saying that they shouldn't EVER wear them.. I've seen a few girls who pulls it off even tho they're not Asian.. But when they start praising the 16,5mm. circle lenses - dude.. I get worried >_<"
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It's like a bunch of drugged up little creatures came out of purikura pictures. Applying mascara on lower eyelashes doesn't look good, unless your goal is to make yourself look like a furless human panda. Definitely not my thing.
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But as I always say, and I can never drill this into people's heads enough, there will always be exceptions to everything. There may be girls (like yourself) who have certain inherent physical traits that allow you to adopt the style a bit more easily, and can pull certain looks off. But most of the time it's dumpy white girls who try and cram themselves in extra small school girl outfits and cake on make up. They think it's "kawaii" or whatever, but it's not. |
.....and yet, there are some fashions in Japan that were actually created in Western countries. Not the gyaru thing, but since some people are talking about other fashions as well..... Asians are not the first race to spike their hair, plaster white make up all over their exposed skin, dress entirely in black clothes.....
I don't really like the gyaru look, no matter who does it. I don't mind them as people, but their look tends to make my eyes resemble theirs when they are using circle lenses, and so it's completely against my will, which makes my case different. XD XD XD But seriously, just ignore it. The person is what matters, not what they look like. On another note, which is related to this: YouTube - Mameshiba 19 - Fava Bean [with English annotations] XD XD XD |
I don't like how they look.... a little creepy for me....
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In the first two pics, the first one, is way overboard.
Even in Japan it's just too much. It's not attractive, it's kind of unnerving. Quote:
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I think it's really just about your own personal preferences and style of choice. I agree that some of them over do it and it just looks odd, but other girls I find are very good at the whole "gyaru-gal" thing.
I follow this girl in Finland, she has her own blog and seems to call herself a gyaru. She has a great sense of style and I love everything she wears and does with her hair/make-up/nails/etc. You can see for yourself here: HauteKeikk.com She wears contacts, fake eye lashes and extensions just like your typical gyaru in Japan, and still manages to make it look good (at least to me she does, I really don't see anything wrong with her style) even though she's a "westerner". Personally I think it's alright if you adapt it to your own style and body. Some girls over do it, yes, but some western girls can often over do it with western styles and clothes also anyway... |
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I'm not gonna go into non-Asian cosplay, cause you and I will never agree. HAHA, yeah stupid faces ftw it seems. Of course they're doing the typical Asian poses.. but oh well.. it just looks ridiculous to me. Quote:
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![]() And most KAWAIIII asian cosplays you see are shooped. I've been a cosplay stalker for like 5 years and I've seen my fair share of ugly ones. Some have terrible skin and shoop it to look like she is some angel. The worst is when they shoop the face... yknow. |
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IMO, your example of western cosplay is a bit misleading. Granted, I don't watch anime or read manga, but there's really nothing about this particular girl that would lead one to believe she was cosplaying had they seen this picture at random. If I saw this girl on Facebook or something, I would just kind of be like, "Well, she has kind of an edgy look going for her...and whoever took the picture has a decent camera..." (sorry, photography dork:D ) but I wouldn't assume it was cosplay. The reason for this is because she's not outwardly overemphasizing a particular Japanese look or trying to emphasize Japanese physical characteristics that she doesn't possess as a caucasian female. |
Western Kospaly to me is Star Trek or Star Wars conventions, and persoanlly I can only stand so many Klingon Darth Vaders. This other stuff your talking about I have no real opion on, as I haven't seen it much.
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How is Western Cosplay different from non-Western Cosplay? It is dressing up as characters you like, whether they be based in titles from the West or titles from Asia, I don't think it makes much of a difference.
Danny Choo dresses as a stormtrooper in Tokyo. That's OK, right? |
It might be partly the idea that, least ways in Japan, alot of the Cosplay is off of anime, while in the US it's either Live action movies/shows or Comics. So there is a style difference between the two. Still, I think Triple M is right, it doesn't matter who is dressed like Darth Vader or Nuruto. Some folks will look good reguardless and some won't.
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Simply just wondering if you think people should stick to 'what they are' instead of trying to be someone/something that they're not.. I feel very inspired by gyaru fashion - indeed - but I'd never wear nails, extensions and that much makeup on a daily just to fit into a box whose content I happen to like. It's not just about being INSPIRED by these styles.. it's about copying them down to the tiniest little detail. Quote:
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It bothers me about how when westerners adopt Japanese styles, we seem to get annoyed by that, but when the Japanese adopt western styles, even if it's hideous, we don't seem to care as much. I don't know. Maybe Japanese people bully other Japanese people who imitate western people too much? I dunno. But the word "awfuljin" sounds disgustingly snobbish to me.
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Anime characters have a large varity of hair color, eye color and hair styles so people could tell the different characters apart. Least orginally that was the reason. Anime has a lot more "western" characters in them than before, where they state what country they hailed from. ( Britain and France seem to be the big two right now)Though the names useually are the real key.
As to fashion, I never really cared, I just wear what works for what I'm doing. Performance is more important than look to me. Sides, Midwestern look is T-shirt ( useually with some logo), Bluejeans and tennis shoes. Not really alot of "catwalk" material here. |
Hey MisaMisa, when I look at your photo, all I see is a girl wearing regular make-up. What makes it gyaru? I mean, it looks good, but I don't understand how it's gyaru. It just looks like regular makeup. I don't know much about gyaru, though, so I'm probably wrong.
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I love cosplay. I also think Japanese, Chinese, Korean's make the best cosplayers. Now that is my opinion and its worth about the value of the type its written in. I love to watch, see, photo good gosplayers and I think that if western, eastern, northern whatever -ern, If they want to wear big lenses, dress in Lolita goth or otherwise, it is simply their business and none of us have the right to give them grief over it. As long as they are not harassing you, harming anyone or doing it for racist purposes then...if you don't like it...don't look. Good Goddess almighty, don't we have something that doesn't pick somebody's personal space, to talk about?
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