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bravo 03-06-2010 11:32 AM

Visiting Japan with a severe seafood allergy
 
Hi all,

I was hoping to find other people who have been in this situation and could help me make sure I'm not forgetting anything. I am very, very allergic to all kinds of seafood and am going to be spending 10 days in Tokyo and Nikko in October. I have gotten a prescription for 2 epi-pens to bring (and filled out the permission to import form for Japan), I ordered allergy cards from selectwisely.com and they sent an emergency form as well to ask people to call a doctor if necessary.

After googling, it appears that Japan might be a tricky place to eat in my situation. I've heard that seafood appears everywhere - I even heard someone had a reaction at a McDonald's. I always love to eat the local food, but in this situation obviously my safety has to come first and I will eat anywhere that is safe.

What I haven't been able to figure out is if I stick to vegetarian restaurants, if I'll be okay - there's conflicting information on this online. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? We are travelling on a strict budget so will be limited to inexpensive places. Are there any regularly available dishes that you can recommend that I can get if I'm stuck? I have travelled all around Europe with no problems but I'm incredibly nervous about this trip.

Thanks a lot for any help.

JayT 03-06-2010 12:32 PM

You can never fail with the curry :D
Every restaurant in Tokyo has curry it seems like.
Although you will be surprised that not everything on the menu is seafood.
I rarely eat seafood here myself.

Nyororin 03-06-2010 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JayT (Post 803074)
You can never fail with the curry :D
Every restaurant in Tokyo has curry it seems like.
Although you will be surprised that not everything on the menu is seafood.
I rarely eat seafood here myself.

There is some level of seafood derivatives in almost everything.
Yes, even curry. (Most use bonito extract in the sauces). Not actually having seafood in something doesn`t mean that there aren`t trace amounts of seafood.

That might be something that would not be that big of an issue for someone who doesn`t like seafood, or who simply doesn`t eat seafood... (Not knowing it is there will not hurt them) But in the case of an allergy, things are different. Even extract used in a sauce on a hamburger can trigger a reaction.

I wish I could offer better advice, but let me just say that Japan would be one of the last places I would want to be responsible for someone with a seafood allergy. Extracts are used even in condiments and seasonings, so there is a fair chance that restaurants may not even be aware that there is some amount of seafood in something or other - even if they are trying.

Your best bet is probably to prepare your own food or to eat things that you can see being prepared. It`s very easy to find things that do not contain seafood as an explicit ingredient - but not to avoid all trace amounts.

I would make sure that everywhere you plan to eat is confirmed ahead of time and that the places you stay are very aware that even trace amounts can cause a serious reaction.

MMM 03-06-2010 03:18 PM

I don't remember seeing a "vegetarian restaurant" but even what might be called a "vegetable dish" could have fish extract in sauce or dressing.

dirtyroboto 03-07-2010 03:27 AM

Does your allergy include seaweed?
Have you had a more specific reaction test to find out what type of seafood triggers the reaction.

You should be ok with plain rice, there is allot of that here and also tofu. but as the others point out, some form of seafood is used in most prepared food here. Hamburg steak usually has bonito in the sauce, and any burger chain that sells fish burger will have a degree of cross contimination.

sarasi 03-07-2010 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 803093)
I don't remember seeing a "vegetarian restaurant" but even what might be called a "vegetable dish" could have fish extract in sauce or dressing.

Take it from this vegetarian that there are there are actually quite a few vegetarian (and even vegan) restaurants in Tokyo, but they tend to be in out of the way places and not be easy for tourists to find. Indian restaurants are a good bet- a chain called Nataraj is actually completely vegetarian and there is a branch in Gaienmae which is fairly central, although again that is not an area that a tourist is likely to passing through.

Google "vegetarian in Tokyo" as there is quite a lot of information already out there on the topic. You may find places that are near where you will be staying/visiting.

I agree with Nyororin that Japan is a very difficult country for someone with a seafood allergy- I have even seen fish extract listed as an ingredient in convenience store pastries, for whatever reason. Bringing as much food as you can with you or buying things that can't possibly have fish extract in them (yoghurt, fruit, veges etc) would probably be safest.

jesselt 03-11-2010 08:54 PM

I have a related question: Does Japan require foods to list potential allergens on the labels? In the United States foods that have even trace amounts of nuts/fish/etc. are required to state that on the label.

MMM 03-11-2010 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jesselt (Post 803698)
I have a related question: Does Japan require foods to list potential allergens on the labels? In the United States foods that have even trace amounts of nuts/fish/etc. are required to state that on the label.

I think the question to ask before that is, do children have fish/nut allergies in Japan?

Nyororin 03-11-2010 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 803715)
I think the question to ask before that is, do children have fish/nut allergies in Japan?

Yes, they do. And yes, allergens are listed. Just not ALL allergens - only the most common. Nut related ones are always listed - for example if a product doesn`t contain nuts but is made in the same factory as nut products they will list it. Dairy is also often listed. I can`t recall what others are listed at the moment, but you`ll usually find the listing on more prepared foods rather than things you will find at the grocery store.
I believe the requirement here is for them to be listed if it is not clear from the ingredient list.

MMM 03-11-2010 11:52 PM

Nut allergies didn't seem to be an issue in the US 30 years ago, but now some people are deathly allergic. Has Japan seen a similar rise?

Nyororin 03-12-2010 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 803721)
Nut allergies didn't seem to be an issue in the US 30 years ago, but now some people are deathly allergic. Has Japan seen a similar rise?

As far as I know nut allergies have always been a problem, even in the US. They`re just more well known now.
I have a relative who has a nut allergy, and they were born in the 40s. They had no trouble with finding other children sharing the allergy during the 50s. I guess it was more up to the parents to avoid things and make foods without nuts.

Japan has also apparently always had allergies - there are "wives tales" about preventing a baby from having allergies by eating/not eating certain things during pregnancy and nursing that have been around at least since great grandmother had her children.

duo797 03-12-2010 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 803721)
Nut allergies didn't seem to be an issue in the US 30 years ago, but now some people are deathly allergic. Has Japan seen a similar rise?

Were restaurants required to list possible allergens in their menus 30 years ago? Perhaps awareness just became greater about these allergies.

yuujirou 03-15-2010 09:40 AM

not so much to contribute to the topic.. but more to relate my sympathies....
but i truly pity those with any allergies of any sort to food....
it is really such a shame to have an unavoidable restriction on your diet....
i, personally, would have no idea how i'd go about not being able to eat seafood...
there are so many wonderful things to try out there... >.<'''

but as most everyone has stated... katsuo is used quite heavily in japanese cuisine >.>''
it's the base for almost every broth or liquid.....
and in a place like japan, as i would imagine, it'd be pretty damned difficult to avoid consuming any form of seafood

perhaps you could learn some basic recipes using japanese ingredients and just cook for yourself?
honestly not the most delightful way to dine in another country... but hey... better safe than sorry eh? >.>'

fatalbert130 03-21-2010 01:02 PM

It is vegetarian cooking not to use meat and a fish for cooking in Japan (SHOUJIN RYOURI).

But it uses the seaweed.

It is the dish which a Buddhist monk ate.


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Naedora 03-23-2010 07:30 PM

To be on the safe side..
just chew on fruits for 10 days lol. cuz some of the food in Japan might use fish sauce to cook their dishes and is hard to tell which dishes have them.
And Japan is ALL about seafood, since their closests source of food is near the ocean and then there is rice on land.
So eat fruits and maybe Japanese Buns (bread)
or you dont have to listen to me at all xD

yuujirou 04-07-2010 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Naedora (Post 805448)
To be on the safe side..
just chew on fruits for 10 days lol. cuz some of the food in Japan might use fish sauce to cook their dishes and is hard to tell which dishes have them.
And Japan is ALL about seafood, since their closests source of food is near the ocean and then there is rice on land.
So eat fruits and maybe Japanese Buns (bread)
or you dont have to listen to me at all xD

eat fruits only if you're a millionaire+
x]


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