Can some check over my table I've done.
 

I've been learning about verbs in japanese as of recently and I have a book on verbs and grammer. The problem for me is that it's all in romaji. I want to get used to seeing things in japanese writing so I made the table on verb bases again on my computer but in hiragana.

Just to see if I've japanified it correctly could someone who knows japanese check over it quickly for me. Thanks in advance for any help, here's the link.

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/9...everbbases.gif

Looks good. However, I would stick to Japanese Grammar for Japanese Learners (Type I, Type II verbs) rather than Japanese Grammar for Japanese (Godan, KamiIchidan, ShimoIchidan, Sagyohenkaku, Kagyohenkaku). It will be more confusing for you.

Also it should be Godan verbs, not Yodan. Yodan verbs does exist but they are strictly classic Japanese only.

woow, impressive, much better than me, well done ;)
I would recomend you to look for some japanese grammer with kanji, kana, hiragana, romaji (too) and english translation, sometimes you might find some nice stuff on ebay...
I wish you good luck.

Well I'm glad it looks good I was just unsure about certain things like it's accuracy especially on base 5. For example: it is こう　and こ if I was using base 5 for かく right?

Just curious, what text book are you using that teaches you verb conjugation like this? Don't you find it confusing?

Anyway I had another look, and spotted a big mistake on Ichidan verb section and the Irregular verb section. In fact, I find the 5 base thing extremely confusing as there is no such thing in Japanese grammar so I don't even know how to correct you based on that table.

In Japanese, there are 6 types of conjugations for each verb (some of them overlap).
未然形 (Mizenkei)
連用形 (Renyoukei)
終止形 (Shuushikei)
連体形 (Rentaikei)
仮定形 (Kateikei)
命令形 (Meireikei)

In your table, Base 6 and 7 are actually both part of Renyoukei, which is Base 2 for Godan verbs. As you can see its confusion galore.

Seriously, for a Japanese learner, this is a terrible confusing way to introduce verb conjugations and I urge you to stick to mainstream Japanese grammar for non-Japanese speakers.

Kirakira san, unfortunately this is the way western people learn how to conjugate Japanese verbs...I will try and look around in Internet to see how they are taught in Japan, now I am curious. But chances are that I will find it completely written in Japanese and before I translate it I will be a grandpa ;)

Ack this is kind of confusing me now as I've looked at other tables also and they all have the 7 different bases.

I don't find it confusing I just am not sure on the prolonged o sound in japanese. I was checking to see if it is indeed written as おう for the prolonged o sound.

SceptileMaster, I would recommend you to learn the meaning of each of the conjugations instead of just learning the conjugations themselves.

E.g. Volitional form of a verb is created using the following rules:
Type I (Godan) - 走（はし）RU - Replace U with O+う so it becomes 走（はし）ろう and it means, let's run.
Type 2 (Ichidan) - 食（た）べRU - Replace RU with YOU so it becomes 食（た）べよう and it means let's eat.
Type 3 (Sahen, Kahen) - 来（く）る = 来（こ）よう、する＝しよう・せよ

Remembering verb conjugations by themselves is useless imho.
After you've grasped the pattern, make sentences, such as 一緒（いっしょ）にテニスをやろうよ etc. やる is Godan, so how do I make it volitional so it's Let's play tennis together.

You will remember it much easier (this isn't Spanish with conjugation glore).

What I'm wondering is where is 食（た）べろ、起（お）きろ、来（こ）い and しろ in your chart. This is the 命令形 conjugation which is totally missing for Ichidan and Irregular verbs.

I'm sorry I'm having trouble understanding because I can read kana currently but not kanji so I'm having trouble grasping your examples. Could you use kana with spaces or something for the moment?

The kana in brakets is the reading for the kanji, so you can understand it even if you don't know the kanji.

Okay and I've read it and that looks like base 5 from the way I've been learning it. I am also learning what the conjugations mean, in other words the verb ending. The table is just for me to look up verb bases. The book then lists verb endings for each base. Let's use the ending you used in the example.

つくろう　means 'let's make something' right? In my book it says that adding base 5 to the stem of the verb makes it 'let's...' in casual speak.

つくりましょう would be the same but more formal if I'm, thinking right. The book says that verbs in masu form use the verb base 2 making る in つくる become り according to the table and then I add one of the following to say change the tense, to say if it's negative/possitve or make it an inclusive command (ましょう). The different forms of masu being if I'm not mistaken:

ます - Present or future tense
ました - Past tense
ません - Negative present or future tense
ませんでした - Negative past tense
ましょう - Inclusive command: Let's...

I dunno it seems to be making sense to me. The bit I'm finding hard is what verb endings to learn first.

I suppose that is why we learn differently from who has Japanese as 母国語 (bokokugo) (native language). We need to learn it by translating and they learn it "from scratch", thus we have two different mental process.

Good Gods.
 

Damn!


I started self-teaching japanese and though i just needed to read a bit of kanji/hiragana/katakana and have some vocabulary...

But lkooking at some threads is just making my hed spin...

I have a LONG way to go

I'm not sure if this will be any easier but this is how my Japanese teacher taught my class (I'm a native speaker but I went to an international school so we spent much less time studying Japanese grammar compared to what I expect Kirakira san did).

for all types of verbs, you first learn the endings in this order
1. negative form: ends with -nai
2. ends with -masu
3. the verb form found in a dictionary
4. supposition form: ending in -ba for godan verbs, -reba for ichidan verbs
5. command form: E column (-e, -ke, -se,...,-re) for godan verbs, -ro for ichidan verbs
6. ends in -u for godan, -you for ichidan verbs

GODAN VERBS (all verbs that aren't ichidan or irregular verbs):
example 書く　（かく）
1. kaKA-nai
2. kaKI-masu
3. kaKU
4. kaKE-ba
5. kaKE
6. kaKO-u
for godan verbs with A group (A I U E O) conjugation, for example 買う　（かう）, A changes to WA (1. kaWA-nai)

ICHIDAN VERBS (verbs with the dictionary form end with -iru or -eru)
example: 見る（みる） & 食べる（たべる）
1. mi-nai; tabe-nai
2. mi-masu; tabe-masu
3. mi-ru; tabe-ru
4. mi-reba; tabe-reba
5. mi-ro; tabe-ro
6. mi-you; tabe-you

I suggest you just memorize the irregular verb conjugation since it's only two verbs (kuru and suru).

and then there's the -ta and -te forms but I'll skip those for now

I remember there was a song some classmates made up to remember the non-1-dan verb conjugations that goes something like the tune of Santa Claus is Coming to Town

u tsu ru tte (You better watch out)
mu bu nu nde (You better not cry)
su shite (You better not pout)
ku ite (I'm telling)
gu ide (You why)

kuru kite (Santa claus is)
suru shite (coming)
iku itte (to town)