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RickOShay (Offline)
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03-27-2010, 11:43 PM

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I really don't think so. In English it's perfectly acceptable to my ear to say "I'm studying katakana [right now]." But you would only have a two-week window in which you could say that before sounding dumb or lazy (or, to be fair, very busy).

Really, six months later you're still studying katakana?.

To my native ear, "study" carries some level of effort, and if you're literally in the middle of learning something that takes more than a few minutes to comprehend, you can use "study" while you're learning that thing.

You would never "study" the names of three flowers, but you could "study" the scientific names of a hundred flowers.

But I think reasonable native ears could differ on this. It's borderline.

Look at this phrase: John studied his cheating wife's face. That is a short-term activity, but implies some effort on John's part.
While I agree that "study" can sound OK in many situations. If you think about it, and if you had a choice between the two words, "learn" is often more appropriate. I have been studying the alphabet. vs. I have been learning the alphabet. To me "learning" seems like the most appropriate word choice.
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03-29-2010, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by KyleGoetz View Post
I really don't think so. In English it's perfectly acceptable to my ear to say "I'm studying katakana [right now]." But you would only have a two-week window in which you could say that before sounding dumb or lazy (or, to be fair, very busy).

Really, six months later you're still studying katakana?.

To my native ear, "study" carries some level of effort, and if you're literally in the middle of learning something that takes more than a few minutes to comprehend, you can use "study" while you're learning that thing.

You would never "study" the names of three flowers, but you could "study" the scientific names of a hundred flowers.

But I think reasonable native ears could differ on this. It's borderline.

Look at this phrase: John studied his cheating wife's face. That is a short-term activity, but implies some effort on John's part.


Yes I agree. Studing is used for something your learning that doesn't take short time. Like, if you are cooking a meal and looking up a recipie, your not studing to cook, your learning the recipie.
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