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forgottenbravery 06-17-2007 10:05 PM

Help
 
Can somebody help me with japanese i don't know any and want to know!

musashi 06-17-2007 10:10 PM

http://www.japanforum.com/forum/japa...-japanese.html

Try talking to him....or her...who ever that is....

forgottenbravery 06-19-2007 04:35 AM

well if you don't mind can we start out with pronouns, I, you, we, they, he ,she. and if there is a plural way to say any of these like you guys, or something i would also like to know

Hatredcopter 06-19-2007 04:58 AM

Buy a book or look at websites. It's kind of a lot to ask people to just teach you Japanese - aside from that, there are many threads on this board already that answer your questions.

forgottenbravery 06-20-2007 09:49 PM

wow your name hatredcopter suits you, jeez Its not like i was asking you personally! SOME people might not mind helping me out personally. and i've only asked one question and its already blown up in my face. YOU really know how to make someone feel special!

Hatredcopter 06-20-2007 11:39 PM

Whether or not people here are willing to help you out directly, my point is that the questions you are asking about are already posted in numerous places across this forum. Furthermore, learning from an actual book or an academic website would help you a lot more than some forum posts. There are lots of free resources out there that would get you started in the right direction.

"Can somebody help me with japanese i don't know any and want to know!" is not exactly the most graceful way of asking for someone to help you with your Japanese.

Seiryuu 06-21-2007 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by forgottenbravery (Post 157906)
wow your name hatredcopter suits you, jeez Its not like i was asking you personally! SOME people might not mind helping me out personally. and i've only asked one question and its already blown up in my face. YOU really know how to make someone feel special!

A thing to ponder:

THE WORLD DOES NOT REVOLVE AROUND YOU. If you want something, you ask for it politely. What everyone else did was merely point you in the way of some links that could help you.

I can't believe I have to deal with this kind of thing on this forum too.

enyafriend 06-21-2007 09:11 AM

Unfortunately (or otherwise), I'm all for what Hatredcopter and Seiryuu said.

Honestly, if you or to those of you who kept starting out new threads seeking out people who can teach them Japanese, it's best that all of you begin by going through existing threads like http://www.japanforum.com/forum/japa...nslations.html
http://www.japanforum.com/forum/japa...-de-asobo.html
and start of from page one and move your way up. Jot them or copy them down as you go along.

These threads exist for a purpose. So make use of them before you even start to begin a new thread of your own. But then again, if you have something specific to ask or unsure of, by all means, please ask. There are many of us who will gladly answer them for you.

forgottenbravery 06-25-2007 10:16 PM

well hatredwhatever, have you ever actually tried to learn another language out of a book, it doesn't work (believe me if it did i wouldn't even be on this site). and wether or not it was graceful or not is yours and only your opinion. if mabey you would of thought of different ways to express it.......

and to you other 2:
Whats wrong with posting this i've also gone through the forums or threads what ever you call them and other people ask this EXACT question so whats so wrong with ME asking.( I don't see you getting Your panties in a knot over their EXACT SAME QUESTIONS). that is what this site is for, isn't it? (well part of it).

enyafriend:
I did ask a specific question i couldn't find and infact it is my only question: i want to know the pronouns. I don't care about how to say i love you, or hi, i actually want to learn and you have to start out with things like pronouns, verbs, nouns etc. But NOOOO i ask one question and instantly ya'll are all like "don't start a new thread...it not good"

seiryuu:

Who..are..you..to say that the world revolves around me! you don't have a clue do you? if you read everything, hatredwhatever completely shut me off and its not hatreds place or yours or even enyafriends to tell me what to do if you don't like it then just ignore it. you don't tell me "OH DON'T POST ANOTHER ONE ITS CLUTTERING UP THIS ENDLESS PAGEs QUESTIONS" i..can...if ...i ...want.. to!

and finally musashi:
Thank you i've seen your name many a time trying to help out.

NanteNa 06-25-2007 10:26 PM

First of all, it's really sad that people got this annoying need to start fighting and bitching eachother. I know, that I as a free human, can just choose to not look at these threads, but seriously? It's a forum. Everything is written. Before you start taking eachothers replies as an insult, then remember that the way to express the words in person, can not be written down. Ones attitude and mood can be assisted by smilies, but not all members on here uses those. That does NOT mean they're evil and only has crashing your ego on their minds.

To your statement of it not being possible to read you to a language; not true. I learned german ONLY by reading german magazines. I know it's different when german does not contain kanji or whatever signs, but it still makes your statement wrong.

As to end this whole VERY long reply, I can only suggest you to check out the 'Learning Japanese' threads, contact people who offers help etc etc.
Good luck with it. ^__^v

forgottenbravery 06-25-2007 10:32 PM

i actually thank NanteNa, you unlike the others had spirit enuff to understand that this is a free country. and i'm glad it was easy for you the read the german and learn but i'm kinda slow. just the only problem with going to other threads is that they NEVER contact me back so i thought it would be a good idea to post my own....never mind.

NanteNa 06-25-2007 10:44 PM

Well. Instead of replying to their posts, then write them a PM with the subject of 'learning japanese' or something. It's a LOT easier to reply a PM than to keep up with ones thread.

forgottenbravery 06-25-2007 10:53 PM

what is a pm

NanteNa 06-25-2007 10:54 PM

Private Message. ^__^v

Seiryuu 06-27-2007 04:04 AM

Ok, this is getting tiring.
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Originally Posted by forgottenbravery (Post 162216)
well hatredwhatever, have you ever actually tried to learn another language out of a book, it doesn't work (believe me if it did i wouldn't even be on this site). and wether or not it was graceful or not is yours and only your opinion. if mabey you would of thought of different ways to express it.......

Tae Kim is a good resource, just to let you know.

Quote:

and to you other 2:
Whats wrong with posting this i've also gone through the forums or threads what ever you call them and other people ask this EXACT question so whats so wrong with ME asking.( I don't see you getting Your panties in a knot over their EXACT SAME QUESTIONS). that is what this site is for, isn't it? (well part of it).
Saying "OMG I WANT TO LEARN JAPANESE" is kind of vague, isn't it? Usually, one is more specific at what they want to learn first. So no, my nonexistent panties aren't in a knot.

If you really do want to know some pronouns, though, TheJapanesePage.com - Japanese for FREE -- How to Wow! with language, culture, kanji, and grammar.

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enyafriend:
I did ask a specific question i couldn't find and infact it is my only question: i want to know the pronouns. I don't care about how to say i love you, or hi, i actually want to learn and you have to start out with things like pronouns, verbs, nouns etc. But NOOOO i ask one question and instantly ya'll are all like "don't start a new thread...it not good"
Quote where any one of us said "liek no start new thread nub", k?

Quote:

seiryuu:

Who..are..you..to say that the world revolves around me! you don't have a clue do you? if you read everything, hatredwhatever completely shut me off and its not hatreds place or yours or even enyafriends to tell me what to do if you don't like it then just ignore it. you don't tell me "OH DON'T POST ANOTHER ONE ITS CLUTTERING UP THIS ENDLESS PAGEs QUESTIONS" i..can...if ...i ...want.. to!
I am a human being to say that the world does not revolve around you. Oh, and I did read everything. You obviously weren't nice enough to give a courteous reply, so why should we? I'm not saying "liek omg stop meking topix it bad 4 u" right now, so last part = no good.

I'll be looking forward to your PMs.

forgottenbravery 06-29-2007 02:35 AM

Saying "OMG I WANT TO LEARN JAPANESE" is kind of vague, isn't it? Usually, one is more specific at what they want to learn first. :

I didn't sound so ditsy (but i guess it comes naturally for some of us) and i was spacific

Quote where any one of us said "liek no start new thread nub", k?:
you don't have to say something pacifically to make it heard

I am a human being:
obviously not

You obviously weren't nice enough to give a courteous reply, so why should we?: YOU have nothing to do with this so why are you even enterfering...if its soooo tireing.

samokan 06-29-2007 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by forgottenbravery (Post 154760)
Can somebody help me with japanese i don't know any and want to know!

There are already tons of material posted here. Sift thru them. Start from there. And if there areas which are blurry, post it on the question thread.

Don't expect anybody here to teach you,just because you ask too. We learned not by postint "I want to learn help me" .. duh , that's just plain stupid. We try to help ppl here, encourage them to learn more about the language and we did not receive any cent for it. Seiryuu and HatredCopter have been one of those members here who try help as much as they can.

If you want to learn, then Learn. If you want to ask question, then ask. There are no STUPID question just STUPID poster...

:vsign:

Seiryuu 06-29-2007 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by forgottenbravery (Post 164650)
Saying "OMG I WANT TO LEARN JAPANESE" is kind of vague, isn't it? Usually, one is more specific at what they want to learn first. :

I didn't sound so ditsy (but i guess it comes naturally for some of us) and i was spacific

I'm pretty sure there are sites for these kinds of basics.

Quote:

Quote where any one of us said "liek no start new thread nub", k?:
you don't have to say something pacifically to make it heard
Pacifically? Explain.

Quote:

I am a human being:
obviously not
And you're obviously an abandoned fetus. Good job.

Quote:

You obviously weren't nice enough to give a courteous reply, so why should we?: YOU have nothing to do with this so why are you even enterfering...if its soooo tireing.
You didn't have to quote me so why are you even bothering to reply? If it gets on your nerves.

Gorotsuki 06-29-2007 04:55 AM

I started with kanji first. I then moved on to learning japanese more at Learn Japanese - Japanese Language

Nihongo o Narau - Learn Japanese
is a realy good site. I learned basic grammar here and they have a good vocabulary list.

My friend is also learning Japanese and we both talk to eachother in Japanese as much as we can. It has really helped. Through my day for everything I say in English I try to say it in Japanese as well.

Hoped that helped a little. There a thread with a list of sites you can go to, to learn. One of the links also leads to language exchanges. One site I know is called kanji something I am not sure atm.

82riceballs 06-29-2007 08:18 PM

If you can't learn from a textbook or website, than you won't be able to learn from any native speaker either. I personally started learning online. Go look at samokan's japanese resources thread. If this is not possible (i don't know why), go hire a tutor who will meet your needs. You just need to be dedicated and have a good attitude. By the way, has anyone ever told you to lower yourself when asking for help? You shouldn't diss someone who's tried to help you.

That's all i have to say. Thanks!

kingkaleigh 06-29-2007 08:37 PM

Uh huh....
 
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Originally Posted by forgottenbravery (Post 154760)
Can somebody help me with japanese i don't know any and want to know!

i can see y ur called that, forgottenbravey, lolz, jking with ya, i don't know Japanese either, lets go find a teacher!:D


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