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milami88 12-24-2017 08:15 PM

みんな 笑ってみな
 
And again a line from Totoro... :)

みんな 笑ってみな おっかないのは逃げちゃうから。

What is 笑ってみな? I tried googling if there is maybe a ~てみな form of the verb or something, but couldn't find anything... :/

Also, can it be that obaasan is talking in kansai dialect? There are so many words which don't exist in the dictionary... Thank you! :)

RadioKid 12-24-2017 11:16 PM

It is not dialect but shortened form of "笑ってみなさい:WARATTE MI-NASAI;try to laugh out".

milami88 12-25-2017 08:41 AM

Ah, I get it, thank you!! :)

But it wasn't the Obaasan who said this line. So I didn't really think this particular line was a dialect.

These are the lines of Obaasan:
そったら恐ろしげなもんじゃねえよ。
いつの間にかいねくなっちまうんだ。(absolutely no idea what this means, and where one word ends and another starts)
たんと おあがり。(isn't たんと=たくさん in kansai dialect?)

So what do you think? Is she talking funny or is it normal Japanese to you? :)

RadioKid 12-25-2017 01:22 PM

"~み:~MI" is used to express "try to do something" in very casual form like as "やってみ:YATTE-MI;Try to do it", "食ってみ:KUTTE-MI; try t eat it" or "読んでみ:YONDE-MI;try to read it".

below are the dialect.

>そったら恐ろしげなもんじゃねえよ。
そんなに恐ろしげなものではないよ。(in standard form)
it is not such a scary (looking) thing.

>いつの間にかいねくなっちまうんだ。
いつの間にかいなくなってしまうんだ。(in standard form)
It disappears unawarely.

>たんと おあがり。
たくさん食べなさい。(in standard form)
Eat it as much as you can.

"たんと:TANTO;many/much" is not dailect but it is old men's word according to my japanese dictionary.

milami88 12-25-2017 04:31 PM

Thank you! Japanese is difficult as it is, and when someone with a dialect comes it is much more difficult... :/

I have learnt the ~てみる form in the meaning of "try to do something (to see how it goes)", but I didn't know you can cut it to just "~てみ". Once more, thank you for that!!

milami88 12-26-2017 06:40 PM

Would it be ok for you if I post all my Totoro questions here? :)

トトロってちゃんと言ったもん。

What is ちゃん (or maybe ちゃんと)? And what is もん? Is it just も?
Could it be "I told you exactly/properly he is called Totoro"?

Thanks in advance :)

RadioKid 12-27-2017 12:46 PM

>Would it be ok for you if I post all my Totoro questions here?
I'm OK if the pace is slow enough.

>トトロってちゃんと言ったもん。

"ちゃんと:CHANTO;in the correct way"

"もん:MON" is children form of "もの:MONO" which is difficult to explain in English.

When "MONO" is used as "Verb+もの:MONO", "MONO" is just same as nothing in English. It just justifies the sentence.

Or, "~もの:~MONO" makes the sentence as excuse something referred before.

milami88 12-27-2017 12:49 PM

Ah, I get it, thank you :)

I will try to ask as little as possible))


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