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SephirothVVC 05-09-2009 03:22 AM

The Vengeance Trilogy
 
sorry if there is already a thread for this
three great films about revenge:) only moderately gory

Directed by Park Chan-Wook (he makes such great films:D )

consisting of... Sympathy For Mr. Vengeance, Old Boy, Sympathy For Lady Vengeance ....in that order

and its not Japanese, its Korean:o

personally i like Old Boy the most of the three





heres the Wiki page if you want to know more Oldboy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Compaqmac321 05-09-2009 03:54 AM

OLD BOY WAS HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i JUST saw it last week
havent seen the other two
but im going to
i was just to lazy to download them
so lady vengence is good? yosh
im watchn them on saturday

SephirothVVC 05-09-2009 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Compaqmac321 (Post 712949)
OLD BOY WAS HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i JUST saw it last week
havent seen the other two
but im going to
i was just to lazy to download them
so lady vengence is good? yosh
im watchn them on saturday

Mr. Vengeance was better than lady, but it was still good

Compaqmac321 05-09-2009 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SephirothVVC (Post 712967)
Mr. Vengeance was better than lady, but it was still good

note taken:vsign:

Aniki 05-09-2009 01:08 PM

I heard the there's going to be an American remake of Old Boy with Will Smith as the main character. Only the word FAIL comes in my mind when I think about it.

SephirothVVC 05-09-2009 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Aniki (Post 713272)
I heard the there's going to be an American remake of Old Boy with Will Smith as the main character. Only the word FAIL comes in my mind when I think about it.

another great movie would be ruined:mad:

Compaqmac321 05-09-2009 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Aniki (Post 713272)
I heard the there's going to be an American remake of Old Boy with Will Smith as the main character. Only the word FAIL comes in my mind when I think about it.

idk about that
will smith is a real actor
i can actually see him doing this role pretty well
id watch, ive never been disappointed in a will smith movie, acting wise.

SephirothVVC 05-09-2009 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Compaqmac321 (Post 713350)
idk about that
will smith is a real actor
i can actually see him doing this role pretty well
id watch, ive never been disappointed in a will smith movie, acting wise.

thats not the point, the director would F*** it up

its great movie the way it is, there is NO reason it needs to be remade

Compaqmac321 05-09-2009 06:03 PM

except for the fact that there are millions of americans who have never seen it......who's directing it? what if the director is ron howard, i havent seen a bad ron howard film.
we should hold out till we find out everything, they could make it better
the departed was a remake of infernal affairs and it was amazing and stayed true to evertything

SephirothVVC 05-09-2009 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Compaqmac321 (Post 713354)
except for the fact that there are millions of americans who have never seen it......who's directing it? what if the director is ron howard, i havent seen a bad ron howard film.
we should hold out till we find out everything, they could make it better
the departed was a remake of infernal affairs and it was amazing and stayed true to evertything

i dont think such a movie could get better unless it changes. its like how a message gets warped after each person tells it. the story being done again might be good but i refuse to call it Old Boy. it just isnt the same

Compaqmac321 05-09-2009 06:12 PM

i feel you, but will smith and a director that probably can do it if they already have will smith
i think its going to be a success..i like old boy just as much as the next person, if you ask the director and everyone who had to do with the first old boy, they most likely feel honored that this movie is getting re made with one of the best american actors alive.

SephirothVVC 05-09-2009 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Compaqmac321 (Post 713359)
i feel you, but will smith and a director that probably can do it if they already have will smith
i think its going to be a success..i like old boy just as much as the next person, if you ask the director and everyone who had to do with the first old boy, they most likely feel honored that this movie is getting re made with one of the best american actors alive.

is this even a for sure thing?

Compaqmac321 05-09-2009 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SephirothVVC (Post 713360)
is this even a for sure thing?

haha, i thought thats what yall were saying
hahahahahaha i thought yall were sure!

Compaqmac321 05-09-2009 06:20 PM

yea its for sure
i just checked imdb

SephirothVVC 05-09-2009 06:26 PM

can you post a link so i can read about it?

pumpum 05-09-2009 06:28 PM

I actually though oldboy was lame !! isnt it the one where he shags his own daughter ??

and also the vengeance films - i thought they were also lame although i cant remember what happened in them now - but then again thats why because they were crap!

Compaqmac321 05-09-2009 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SephirothVVC (Post 713366)
can you post a link so i can read about it?

its not really something u can read
u have to have imdbpro to read it
but imdb posts all the works of actors and future works, and when i went to will smith's he has about 22 things coming out and old boy was one of them

Will Smith (I)

Aniki 05-09-2009 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Compaqmac321 (Post 713350)
idk about that
will smith is a real actor
i can actually see him doing this role pretty well
id watch, ive never been disappointed in a will smith movie, acting wise.

Doesn't matter who the actor is. Through out the history of American filmmaking nobody made a movie of pure vengeance such as Old Boy. And If Wikipedia is correct they already removed the incest scene, which was an important part of the movie.
That movie is gonna fail.

Compaqmac321 05-09-2009 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Aniki (Post 713432)
Doesn't matter who the actor is. Through out the history of American filmmaking nobody made a movie of pure vengeance such as Old Boy. And If Wikipedia is correct they already removed the incest scene, which was an important part of the movie.
That movie is gonna fail.

i saw the incest scene, didnt know it was incest at the time, not until they showed the first incest scene that i realized what was going on and my mind was going crazy over how insanely creative the movie was

name a will smith movie that failed
dont worry
ill wait

SephirothVVC 05-09-2009 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by pumpum (Post 713368)
I actually though oldboy was lame !! isnt it the one where he shags his own daughter ??

and also the vengeance films - i thought they were also lame although i cant remember what happened in them now - but then again thats why because they were crap!

your lame



that scene was a crucial part to the plot! if they remove it its not even going to make sense!!

Compaqmac321 05-09-2009 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SephirothVVC (Post 713442)
your lame



that scene was a crucial part to the plot! if they remove it its not even going to make sense!!

they more than likely wont remove the scene
korea is different from america in korea they blurr out knives and dead bodys on tv
it will be rated R or unrated on dvd release
ive seen worst scenes in other movies

SephirothVVC 05-09-2009 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Compaqmac321 (Post 713443)
they more than likely wont remove the scene
korea is different from america in korea they blurr out knives and dead bodys on tv
it will be rated R or unrated on dvd release
ive seen worst scenes in other movies

well if they take out the incest thing for americans it wont make sense, i have a feeling they will because average american people would flip if they heard something like that

Compaqmac321 05-09-2009 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SephirothVVC (Post 713444)
well if they take out the incest thing for americans it wont make sense, i have a feeling they will because average american people would flip if they heard something like that

what are you saying
no they wouldnt
the fact that its incest wouldnt be known until the end anyway
idk what your basing that off of, ppl have seen way worst

and he was saying they took it out in korea not america
since the movie hasnt been made here yet

Aniki 05-09-2009 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Compaqmac321 (Post 713435)
name a will smith movie that failed
dont worry
ill wait

Stop being such Will Smith fanboy, it's makes you look pathetic. And don't think the movies with W.Smith that had a good box office revenue it immediately makes them cult classic.

SephirothVVC 05-09-2009 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Compaqmac321 (Post 713445)
what are you saying
no they wouldnt
the fact that its incest wouldnt be known until the end anyway
idk what your basing that off of, ppl have seen way worst

and he was saying they took it out in korea not america
since the movie hasnt been made here yet

well obviously they cant take it from something that doesnt exist yet. its just a feeling i have. so we dont have to discuss it, since there is no point. we can just wait and see. i would prefer it if we stopped re-making films. its getting ridiculous.

i read somewhere on the net that the people that have all the rights to re-make these foreign films are doing it because they know the average american doesnt want to read subtitles and therefore they can make money for little amount of actual effort.

Compaqmac321 05-09-2009 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Aniki (Post 713446)
Stop being such Will Smith fanboy, it's makes you look pathetic. And don't think the movies with W.Smith that had a good box office revenue it immediately makes them cult classic.

hold up dawg calm down, dont try me like that while the internet protects you. real talk dont get disrespectful cus i didnt....


@sephiroth

yea i feel u on that, we can just agree to disagree for now. we can spark this convo back up whenever this movie comes out, idk when that is tho
yea i was like that when i was younger in middle school, i hated subtitles, so when dubbed stuff came out i was excited and i thought dubbed was better, but when i got to high school i started hating dubs and id rather see something subbed....i personally would rather movies not be remade and for them to just be released in the us in the first place, like they shudda just put old boy out in the theaters here when it came out there. they do that with our movies, but that probably wont happen ever.
i was just saying that not all remakes are bad. but there are some remakes that are TERRIBEL
and when they turn an anime into a movie here in the us
they should stop that
cus dragonball SUCKED

SephirothVVC 05-09-2009 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Compaqmac321 (Post 713449)
and when they turn an anime into a movie here in the us
they should stop that
cus dragonball SUCKED

the reason its a cartoon is cuz stuff like that cant be imitated by real people haha im glad i didnt see that dragon ball movie

Compaqmac321 05-09-2009 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SephirothVVC (Post 713452)
the reason its a cartoon is cuz stuff like that cant be imitated by real people haha im glad i didnt see that dragon ball movie

haha
thats EXACTLY what i was saying
u cant do dragonball z its not possible
they just had to mess up my childhood memories
i saw it bootleg lol i didnt pay!:vsign:
i still want my time back tho

Aniki 05-09-2009 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Compaqmac321 (Post 713454)
u cant do dragonball z its not possible

Yes you can. Just because it's an anime doesn't mean it's impossible to be made into a live action movie. You just need good staff, that's all. Look at Transformers movie, I can't say it sucked.

SephirothVVC 05-09-2009 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Aniki (Post 713458)
Yes you can. Just because it's an anime doesn't mean it's impossible to be made into a live action movie. You just need good staff, that's all. Look at Transformers movie, I can't say it sucked.

thats not really live-action though, they used lots of CGI. if they did dragonball with crazy amounts of CGI it would have been better i think

Pexster 05-09-2009 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SephirothVVC (Post 713460)
thats not really live-action though, they used lots of CGI. if they did dragonball with crazy amounts of CGI it would have been better i think

That sucks, but I still want to see it. Even though I know it's ruined for sure.
But anyhew to the main topic. I need to see it, thanks Seph for making my 'To watch list' bigger. -_-v

Compaqmac321 05-10-2009 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Pexster (Post 713465)
That sucks, but I still want to see it. Even though I know it's ruined for sure.
But anyhew to the main topic. I need to see it, thanks Seph for making my 'To watch list' bigger. -_-v

want me to direct to where u can download it?
its good quality too
like dvd

Compaqmac321 05-10-2009 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Aniki (Post 713458)
Yes you can. Just because it's an anime doesn't mean it's impossible to be made into a live action movie. You just need good staff, that's all. Look at Transformers movie, I can't say it sucked.


man i feel watchu sayn cuz transformers was good, and the transformers looked real

but to me like the stuff they can do, the flying the kamehameha's, and the world, that can be done, but theres stuff they cant do, like the hair, i wanna see dragonball z hair, they didnt even attempt it, goku is in high school in the movie, goku NEVER went to school, they had that being where he met chi chi, that was wack he met chi chi when he was 11 and 12
like they didnt get ANYTHING story wise right, they shudda just called it sumn different
they kamehameha's looked like gas
like how he met master roshi wasnt the same, he learned how to to the kamehameha b4 the world tornament when he was 11 or 12 with krillin, they changed that
they had the world tournament looking like mortal kombat when its more along the lines of a football game stadium type joint but with fighting....it was wack

but there is a director out there that can pull off the real dragonball z
so what i said isnt completely true
u right they need staff
like transformers staff was a amazing
even superman
the staff for the visuals was amazing, even tho the movie was poorly executed

Pexster 05-10-2009 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Compaqmac321 (Post 713507)
want me to direct to where u can download it?
its good quality too
like dvd

!!!! Yes please, I would glady appreciate it! XD

Compaqmac321 05-10-2009 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Pexster (Post 713521)
!!!! Yes please, I would glady appreciate it! XD

torrentfive.com

its there!


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