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evanny 05-25-2011 07:46 AM

japanese shows
 
was wondering if some of you could help me with finding cool japanese shows. something like Dr. House, The big bang theory or mythbusters. well anything that is good and has seasons.
don't want to spoil all the good japanese movies for myself before i can speak and understand proper japanese.
thank you :cool:

tokusatsufan 05-25-2011 08:09 AM

Why do people like rubbish?

Actually if you go on TV Nihon Netajin had some quite funny sketches.

RickOShay 05-25-2011 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by evanny (Post 866158)
was wondering if some of you could help me with finding cool japanese shows. something like Dr. House, The big bang theory or mythbusters. well anything that is good and has seasons.
don't want to spoil all the good japanese movies for myself before i can speak and understand proper japanese.
thank you :cool:

Sorry dude, you will not find any cool Japanese shows like that to my knowledge, because well, there are not any (sorry not a fan at all of Japanese TV), but yeah sitcoms are non-existant, dramas never have nearly the budget of American shows like Dr. House, and never seen a really cool documentary or science oriented show like Mythbusters.

Honestly, basically all Japanese TV has to offer is weird challenge shows, variety shows and shows where a bunch of famous people sit around and shoot the shit about whatever (this one gets reallllly old...) and shows about food, or traveling shows about local stuff (usually food). To me it is all just extremely repetitive, and just sickening to watch anymore. Once in while there might be something interesting, but there is simply no comparison between American TV and Japanese TV. Your best bet is to come over here, get cable, and watch dubbed over American shows if you want to watch something that won't make you want to blow your brains out (other than anime).

masaegu 05-25-2011 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RickOShay (Post 866173)
Sorry dude, you will not find any cool Japanese shows like that to my knowledge, because well, there are not any (sorry not a fan at all of Japanese TV), but yeah sitcoms are non-existant, dramas never have nearly the budget of American shows like Dr. House, and never seen a really cool documentary or science oriented show like Mythbusters.

Honestly, basically all Japanese TV has to offer is weird challenge shows, variety shows and shows where a bunch of famous people sit around and shoot the shit about whatever (this one gets reallllly old...) and shows about food, or traveling shows about local stuff (usually food). To me it is all just extremely repetitive, and just sickening to watch anymore. Once in while there might be something interesting, but there is simply no comparison between American TV and Japanese TV. Your best bet is to come over here, get cable, and watch dubbed over American shows if you want to watch something that won't make you want to blow your brains out (other than anime).

Why so many Americans appear to think that everything in the world should be made to please them remains a big mystery to me. Japanese TV people would be stupid if they tried to please Americans when Japan consists 99% of Japanese and Americans are not even the largest group among the remaning 1%.

Besides, OP never asked if we liked Japanese TV in the first place. Let him watch Japanese TV and form his own opinion instead of forcing your not only highly biased but also hateful opinion on him.

RickOShay 05-25-2011 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by masaegu (Post 866174)
Why so many Americans appear to think that everything in the world should be made to please them remains a big mystery to me. Japanese TV people would be stupid if they tried to please Americans when Japan consists 99% of Japanese and Americans are not even the largest group among the remaning 1%.

Besides, OP never asked if we liked Japanese TV in the first place. Let him watch Japanese TV and form his own opinion instead of forcing your not only highly biased but also hateful opinion on him.

I know Japanese TV is made for Japanese people. Did I ever demand that it be made to please me? My simple solution is that I do not watch it anymore. It is just my opinion so no need to take it personally. Sorry, this is one of the things on a very short list on things about Japan I do not care for. There is no need to be so defensive as to call my opinion "hateful", If i got pissed off and felt I need to stand up and defend America every time somebody said something negative about it on a forum, I do not think I would ever be able to leave my computer.

Anyhow I gave the OP my opinion because he referenced 3 American TV shows (obviously what he likes) and if that is what he is looking for then I was just telling him he is not going to find it on Japanese TV. Sorry if you feel I was too harsh on it, but I think he will be able to form his own opinion on it whether I told him I think it is good or not.

WingsToDiscovery 05-25-2011 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by masaegu (Post 866174)
Why so many Americans appear to think

This is where I stopped because I don't care to read the opinions of people who always complain about their country being insulted and then include their own generalization in the same sentence.
What he said was an opinion, not an insult. And even if you didn't like the way he worded it, it's not like the information was inaccurate. Will you find these kinds of shows on Japanese TV? Not really. What will you find instead? *See RickOShay's post*

MMM 05-25-2011 04:15 PM

There are a lot of ways Rick could have answered the OP, and he went for the throat.

Masaegu is right: Japanese TV is made and marketed for Japanese viewers. Let's end any ill will here.

I will say as supposedly superior American TV is, they sure do copy a lot of Japanese shows (Silent Library, Wiped Out, MXC, etc.)

evanny 05-25-2011 04:17 PM

so really? the don't have any popular mainstream shows?
they don't have to be like house or mythbusters but well, not exactly spanish soap opera also. just some interesting people in an interesting setting.

tv shows are basically the means by which i improved my english dramatically.

Nyororin 05-25-2011 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by WingsToDiscovery (Post 866186)
Will you find these kinds of shows on Japanese TV? Not really. What will you find instead? *See RickOShay's post*

There are much less inflammatory ways of conveying the same information. While I kind of rolled my eyes at the irony of masaegu saying "Americans" do such-and-such, I have to agree that it really was a poor answer.
I`m not a fan of popular Japanese programming (neither is my husband, who is 100% Japanese)... Nor am I a fan of popular US programming. So I simply don`t watch things I don`t enjoy. I don`t feel the need to bash either country`s programming because it is all down to taste.

That said - I find NHK documentaries to be top notch, below only those of BBC. (NHK often co-produces with BBC...) Occasionally there are good television series on, but I can`t really come up with one at the moment because I don`t really watch television to any real extent.

SHAD0W 05-25-2011 04:31 PM

In my experience, most Japanese TV is either children's shows like anime, game shows, variety shows news or documentaries.

Japanese TV bored me to be honest, the exciting parts being the commercials, Down Town and Nihon-GO!

But then, I'm not Japanese....

WingsToDiscovery 05-25-2011 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Nyororin (Post 866193)
There are much less inflammatory ways of conveying the same information. While I kind of rolled my eyes at the irony of masaegu saying "Americans" do such-and-such, I have to agree that it really was a poor answer.

Well I'm not saying it was the best answer either, and I personally wouldn't have answered that way myself. But it's not like he's lying or anything. There just simply wasn't any tact. But whenever a situation like this happens, someone else always has to play a victim and make some snarky comment about America as if that's the reason why someone feels the way they feel.

Sorabito 05-25-2011 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by evanny (Post 866158)
was wondering if some of you could help me with finding cool japanese shows. something like Dr. House, The big bang theory or mythbusters. well anything that is good and has seasons.
don't want to spoil all the good japanese movies for myself before i can speak and understand proper japanese.
thank you :cool:

Let's see......

I like "Ikinari Ougon Densetsu". They challenge many different things. Such as try to live on unmanned island. Last two episodes were airport jobs.
Ikinari Ougon Densetsu | 録画テレビ 6GaTerebi

"Sekai no Hate Made Itte Q!" They go around the world, and show and try cultures and festivals of different countries.
Sekai No Hate Made Itte Q! | 録画テレビ 6GaTerebi

If you like history "Seiki No Wide Show! The Konya Wa History"
Seiki No Wide Show! The Konya Wa History | 録画テレビ 6GaTerebi

These may sound like serious shows but there are acutally quite funny:) if you can understand Japanese language good enough and educational as well.

tokusatsufan 05-25-2011 06:51 PM

Last night on Keyhole I saw this feature where they blindfolded people to see if they could tell the difference between if there was air conditioning or not.
Now initially I thought it was boring,but then they made it fun to watch.

It might seem vapid,it might seem tacky to us in the western world but at least it's fun to watch. They don't import reality TV ever. The only international formats they adopt are things like Deal or no Deal.
My mother has actually told me that British television is the best in the world.
And she's the more sensible parent too. I suppose it's just what you like.

In British culture we have this thing about nastiness. Granted,the Japanese do like pain but if the X Factor were a Japanese format,it'd just be solid,no-nonsense,straight to the good stuff. There are good British programmes,like Doctor Who[although I've only really liked the pirate one this year],but we have a bit of that Australian thing. Not as bad. We think that America does TV better. We just barely make enough to make a cultural difference.

evanny 05-25-2011 07:38 PM

well. uk has ultimate car show - top gear :)
i love it. specially the specials. since then most of the fun stuff that happens in genuine and not scripted. also the news segment rocks.
however uk also has one of the worst shows ever - Brainiac. so annoying (specially that other presenter, not Hammond) and stupid... :)

P.S Sorabito, ill try finding them :cool: thanks.

RobinMask 05-25-2011 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by tokusatsufan (Post 866214)
My mother has actually told me that British television is the best in the world.

I don't know about all television, but we certainly have some of the best comedy and comedians. I love all the old shows like Blackadder, Red Dwarf, Fawlty Towers etc., but in modern day quality comedy seems to lacking somewhat, but shows like QI are rather amusing.

I think there's good and bad about the television in most nations, for example I adore the dramas in the US. Indian television has some great musicals and romances, too.

I really don't have much good to say about Japanese television, though . . . the NHK seems to broadcast some good shows, but the only other shows I get to see (being that I'm not inside Japan) are anime or mindless gameshows. Ninja Warrior and Takeshi's Castle seem like the most mind-numbing, braindead kind of shows I've ever seen, so repetitive and pointless. I do adore a fair few Japanese movies, but the only television of theirs that's aired here is truly cringe-worthy.

tokusatsufan 05-25-2011 09:41 PM

There has to be absolutely nothing on before I'll watch Top Gear. Richard Hammond does get on my nerves. On QI,Stephen Fry claimed to not like Big Brother,which is just to appease the public. He's not gonna say he likes it whether he likes it or not. Just not gonna happen.

The Sarah Jane Adventures on the other hand,now that was a quality British programme. And now we can't even have that! That K-9 show is a poor imitation. Now the United States is capable of making good programmes,but the good programmes are things like the original Wipeout,American Idol is a bit more fun to watch than the X Factor and I must admit these shows are actually watchable without Simon Cowell,Power Rangers,I used to love Max Steel when I was a kid,I liked Heroes until it went bad,Farscape was a half-American programme. I like Jon Stewart I think his name was. He's funny.

I just never understood as a kid,why did everyone like Friends? Frasier,I like Frasier. I used to like Everybody Loves Raymond. Generally though,I am not a sitcom person. My Hero was the only funny thing on television in it's day and everyone on the internet hated it! I remember watching these comedy awards,and ONLY FOOLS AND HORSES won. What?! That was like the worst one! The Vicar of Dibley was there! It's about London,that's why it got it. Another show I used to find funny was Atlantis High,it was an Australian thing.

RickOShay 05-25-2011 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Nyororin (Post 866193)
There are much less inflammatory ways of conveying the same information. While I kind of rolled my eyes at the irony of masaegu saying "Americans" do such-and-such, I have to agree that it really was a poor answer.
I`m not a fan of popular Japanese programming (neither is my husband, who is 100% Japanese)... Nor am I a fan of popular US programming. So I simply don`t watch things I don`t enjoy. I don`t feel the need to bash either country`s programming because it is all down to taste.

That said - I find NHK documentaries to be top notch, below only those of BBC. (NHK often co-produces with BBC...) Occasionally there are good television series on, but I can`t really come up with one at the moment because I don`t really watch television to any real extent.

Of course I admit I could have been nicer in how I worded it. Sorry. Perhaps I should clarify, I do not watch Japanese TV anymore but someone I live with does, and I have to put up with it in the background, thus TV annoys me sometimes, but I am willing to deal with it because that is life and because it is the real world. On the internet and an anonymous forum, however, I sometimes feel like I can be a little more blunt, it is a nice place to vent. I know there are limits, and I do remember that I am talking to people, so believe it or not I try to hold back and "stay nice" on a lot of things.

In any case, I feel it is a little extreme to get worked up and take personally somebody's opinion about something as trivial as television.

The second poster called american TV rubbish.. did I feel like I needed to jump down his throat about it? No, it is his opinion and he is welcome to it. Bottom line it's just TV, no need to take someone else's opinion about it like it's a personal attack.

and here is how masegu responds quite typical of him, so here is my response to him and the last I will speak of him.

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Originally Posted by masaegu
Just put me on ignore. I will do the same with you. Seems I had completely overestimated you somehow.

That is a great I idea. Honestly I could care less what a person like you thinks about me. And I know this is just your way of doing a silly power play. But you have proven yourself to be a hypocrite and quite rude to others for no good reason and somebody whose posts I do not care to read. Other than what you write in the language parts you bring nothing to this forum. So good-bye and good riddance.

Realism 05-25-2011 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RickOShay (Post 866173)
Sorry dude, you will not find any cool Japanese shows like that to my knowledge, because well, there are not any (sorry not a fan at all of Japanese TV), but yeah sitcoms are non-existant, dramas never have nearly the budget of American shows like Dr. House, and never seen a really cool documentary or science oriented show like Mythbusters.

Wrong. Off the top of my head I can think of a Japanese show like House.

But it probably won't convince you anyways...because it's Japan, where all shows are garbage

WingsToDiscovery 05-26-2011 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by RickOShay (Post 866228)
and here is how masegu responds quite typical of him, so here is my response to him and the last I will speak of him.

I got the same PM lol. Except I don't think this is the first time he's threatened me and then banned me from PMing him because he can dish it but can't take it :D

MMM 05-26-2011 01:08 AM

Let's keep this thread on topic, and not as a place to talk about other users. If you have any issues that need to be addressed please PM me or another mod.

RickOShay 05-26-2011 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Realism (Post 866230)
Wrong. Off the top of my head I can think of a Japanese show like House.

But it probably won't convince you anyways...because it's Japan, where all shows are garbage

No please do enlighten. I do not really watch House that much, but I am sure the OP would like to know if a show of the same writing and production value exists. I was just saying I do not know of one.

hiira 05-26-2011 08:31 AM

Hello
 
There's a site called mysoju.com where one can find dramas and movies from Japan, Korea and Taiwan. These dramas are about everything and anything kind of. You can probably find something there that is possible to watch...

Realism 05-29-2011 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RickOShay (Post 866248)
No please do enlighten. I do not really watch House that much, but I am sure the OP would like to know if a show of the same writing and production value exists. I was just saying I do not know of one.

振り返れば奴がいる

A show about a smart-ass doctor who has really high surgical skills, but he could care less about his patients. He also takes bribes from patients' relatives and other people. Then one day an "innocent" doctor shows up, who doesn't have the skills, but really cares about his patients. The two clash and the story goes on from there.

The writing and acting are very good. Every episode is serious, there isn't any cheesiness or stupid comedy here. Production values however, the show was made in 1993. So you're not gonna get House production values. Still a very very good show regardless.


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