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jrocker21 09-23-2009 03:59 PM

lol..
some guy/girl is claming that gazette is plagiarizing off another band.. or something like that.

read the comments for the "before i decay" pv preview.
it's funny..

Miyavifan 09-23-2009 04:20 PM

hmm. I really doubt that's true. but it makes me want to see for myself?

and when have they ever had a song that's like a Dir en grey song?

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ok. I listened to both, and asides from both being heavy songs... at least at times. I don't see the similarity.

Kufufunofu 09-23-2009 11:24 PM

:rolleyes:
they "plagiarized" from what dir en grey song??

TheCrimson 09-24-2009 08:43 AM

plagiarising. no. but if you're tuned into music musically. that is know a thing or two about melody, a lot of japanese music have pretty much the same melody. i have about 5 gig of indie japanese music (459 artists). i kid you not, i'll put something on, and i'll know the melody, even if i haven't heard that particular song or artist before.
this is because the japanese found their "nickelback theory" the same melody, just different instruments, words, etc. i have noticed a lot of rehashing happen with GazettE and Gackt in particular. i love GazE and all, am just a little disappointed with the past few singles, Distress and Coma in particular. its a rehashed Bathroom.
like Gackt's Redemption. if you listen to that, and Mind Forest. it's the exact same melody and structure.
the nickelback theory. :) its when artists get lazy ;)
Dir en Grey happens to be one of the so called "pioneers" of the j-music movement in the west. every other band wants to be big like them. they know Dir en Grey music work with the fans, and so they get all the other artists to sound like them.
and if you don't already know, a lot of the big record companies in Japan are run by the Yakuza. the band's creativity does not become a priority once they are signed. they are to make what the record company thinks the fans will like. and of course, make the look the main focus of the whole thing.
good on Miyavi for moving on from PSC :)

Miyavifan 09-25-2009 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Kufufunofu (Post 773184)
:rolleyes:
they "plagiarized" from what dir en grey song??

no.... the person is saying they plagiarized from Lynch, if I'm not mistaken.

lself 09-25-2009 04:15 AM

That's so stupid. I agree with crimson, many songs sound alike, because they have the same melody, i don't know how many times i've heard it. But it's not plagiarization, imo. Anyway, gazette even did two songs that did have the same melody or whatever, such as silly god disco/shadow viii. People are influenced by other bands, obviously. I love heidi though, because they are so unto themselves and and consistent in their style.

That's interesting, about the yakuza

TheCrimson 09-25-2009 10:10 PM

yeah, exactly. it doesnt count as plagiarism cause they all do it ;)
and yeah. the yakuza thing. don't you wonder why dir en grey haven't split up? musically they're just not together anymore, hence they don't have the creativity anymore. but they can't break up. their contract is a lifetime thing, the only way they can get out of it is death.
again, that's what i heard.
i don't think PSC is that bad though, as they let miyavi out, so hopefully GazE isnt in that much of a shit situation :)

Kufufunofu 09-26-2009 01:17 AM

^O.O!!!
wtf!
seriously!!the yakuza is involved in the whole music thing?!
wow..i've learned alot about jmusic this past week
LOL

lself 09-26-2009 05:06 AM

I'm sure there's many other things we don't know lol
anyway, here's the longer preview of before i decay

NanteNa 09-26-2009 01:15 PM

I'm really pissed. -_-'' Just saw a notification for the new DVD.
Over 100 bucks for the limited!
Who the hell smacked nails in their lunch? Aiiish! Are they insane??

AoiLove 09-26-2009 03:26 PM

yay! uraha! finally! here in arizona,no one even know who they are and it is horrible! i have 5 friends that know uraha and his amazing thighs! :) :rheart:

Miyavifan 09-26-2009 03:50 PM

(it's Uruha)

@ Nan... 100 dollars!? wha!?

NanteNa 09-26-2009 09:00 PM

Mf@ Yeah I know. It's freaking insane! They're just REALLY milking it now. >_>'' I'm pissed! And the release is near christmas. WTH is wrong with them?!

Miyavifan 09-26-2009 09:40 PM

That is absolutely flippin' ridiculous!

lself 09-26-2009 11:15 PM

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That is absolutely flippin' ridiculous!

That is a crazy price!

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TheCrimson 09-26-2009 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by NanteNa (Post 773641)
I'm really pissed. -_-'' Just saw a notification for the new DVD.
Over 100 bucks for the limited!
Who the hell smacked nails in their lunch? Aiiish! Are they insane??

no they arent insane, its cause they can :'D they know the fangirls will pay -nods- and besides. its not "them" in a sense. its the company :'D

ohhh and its just too f**king apparent now! i've heard that one before! harder and faster Circle of Swindler! and another song for sure sounds like it... just trying to figure it out. the vocal melodies i've heard in another of their previous songs for sure!

NanteNa 09-27-2009 01:35 PM

*touches Aoi*

Yeah, PSC has gone all mental like SM now. It's getting annoying. There's no way in HELL that I can afford both Christmas presents and a 102 dollar DVD in the same month. the fuck..

Kufufunofu 09-27-2009 06:31 PM

wtf!i just read the previous posts and wow seriously i would nvr pay that much! >.<
i bought DIM and some posters xD
they think we have that much money ..lol

Miyavifan 09-27-2009 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by lself (Post 773757)
That is a crazy price!

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ah, those are good pics... wait. someone did? where?

TheCrimson 09-27-2009 09:18 PM

we may not have that much money, but there's a lot of crazy fans out there. more than enough crazy fans. its like. those photo prints thing they sell in the Jrock magazines. its like who the f**k would buy that? but apparently people actually do O_O its like, duuuude, its called photobucket? ;P

Tear 09-27-2009 10:06 PM

I also love gazette too..
They are the best visual band..

NanteNa 09-28-2009 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Kufufunofu (Post 773894)
wtf!i just read the previous posts and wow seriously i would nvr pay that much! >.<
i bought DIM and some posters xD
they think we have that much money ..lol

I bought their last one; the huge silver box. I'm getting this one too. Cause I'm a crazy fan-hoe. lolz. I'm too nice to these guys.

jrocker21 09-28-2009 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by NanteNa (Post 774030)
I bought their last one; the huge silver box. I'm getting this one too. Cause I'm a crazy fan-hoe. lolz. I'm too nice to these guys.

Ditto..
then again the last one was a birthday gift to me.. i didn't pay crap for the +$100 limited edition dvd. :vsign:

this one i'm tempted to pre-order the limited edition..
just cause i'm a cunt for live dvds. XDD

NanteNa 09-29-2009 02:34 PM

Hahah! ME TOO! and extra material baby! Omg I LOVED NLSG. It was the PERFECT DVD, baby! ah ahh ahhhhh! -faints-

TheCrimson 09-29-2009 10:06 PM

that's my fave dvd too :'D it's teh awesomezors, they play all my faves

Kufufunofu 09-29-2009 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by NanteNa (Post 774284)
Hahah! ME TOO! and extra material baby! Omg I LOVED NLSG. It was the PERFECT DVD, baby! ah ahh ahhhhh! -faints-

so jealous !>.<
im such a bad Gaze fan
i dont own that dvd!but i have my favorite lives of them on my ipod :o
but im thinking of asking my mom to buy NLSG...hopefully she does

TheCrimson 09-30-2009 10:51 AM

or ask a guy to get it for you (if you're a girl) ;)
i got a guy to get it for me xD

jrocker21 09-30-2009 09:42 PM

lol.. that's how i got my repeated countless error limited edition dvds.

NSLG is freaking awesome.
too bad i don't have the limited edition. wish i did.

JayT 10-04-2009 01:03 AM

If you haven't seen this, shame on you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQbp0YsazDM

lself 10-04-2009 09:57 PM

Wow that is so cool XD It must have taken a lot of work:P

JayT 10-04-2009 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by lself (Post 775283)
Wow that is so cool XD It must have taken a lot of work:P

I know right! I thought it was hilarious! xD
The solo looks so epic! LOL

Miyavifan 10-05-2009 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JayT (Post 775173)

asides from there being parts that aren't in the actual PV, it's good.
I don't think the characters look exactly like the guys, but very good anyway.
Can't expect them to look exactly the same, anyway.

It's actually my first time hearing this song, and watching the PV.

I don't know if anyone who sees this post, after my reply, will need it.
but the actual PV, so you can compare.


lself 10-07-2009 04:54 PM

Full Before I Decay PV!
I really like it. I also like that they show a lot of the other guys besides Ruki. I love seeing Kai going crazy drumming especially XD

Miyavifan 10-07-2009 05:59 PM

oh.... that's a new song, right?

fei 10-07-2009 08:07 PM

dude sexy ass new song....they've done it again like always

lself 10-08-2009 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by fei (Post 775749)
dude sexy ass new song....they've done it again like always

I totally agree with you XD

TheCrimson 10-08-2009 02:32 AM

Kouyou looks smashing :'D
vox melodies... aaargh its so frustrating now that i have a deeper understanding in this sort of thing xD
what they should do: down tune, and come up with new vox melodies :'D
then it would be purrrfect.
i don't mind it too much though... i'd probably get sick of it too soon cause it sounds like something of theirs i've heard before.

and why are all their vids always of them just playing? sometimes with some chick doing random things... BE MORE CRETIVE DAMN IT! they so have the potential :(

lself 10-08-2009 04:55 AM

Well, I kind of like that it\'s of them playing. I think in the past they\'ve been relatively creative. I mean, we don\'t not want to see them at all.

TheCrimson 10-08-2009 08:43 AM

i\'m not suggesting you don\'t not see them at all... i mean... i\'d rather see them in roles.... instead of just playing. it gets kind of old :P that\'s all they do it seems these days.

NanteNa 10-10-2009 11:27 AM

Okay, tune kinda reminds me of zetsu.. Aside from that.. XD I LIKE AOIIII<33 Ohh he looks smexable. And yeah.. *unbraids Kai\'s hairdo* Nuh-uh, huns.


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