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jrocker21 09-23-2009 03:59 PM

lol..
some guy/girl is claming that gazette is plagiarizing off another band.. or something like that.

read the comments for the "before i decay" pv preview.
it's funny..

Miyavifan 09-23-2009 04:20 PM

hmm. I really doubt that's true. but it makes me want to see for myself?

and when have they ever had a song that's like a Dir en grey song?

{edited}

ok. I listened to both, and asides from both being heavy songs... at least at times. I don't see the similarity.

Kufufunofu 09-23-2009 11:24 PM

:rolleyes:
they "plagiarized" from what dir en grey song??

TheCrimson 09-24-2009 08:43 AM

plagiarising. no. but if you're tuned into music musically. that is know a thing or two about melody, a lot of japanese music have pretty much the same melody. i have about 5 gig of indie japanese music (459 artists). i kid you not, i'll put something on, and i'll know the melody, even if i haven't heard that particular song or artist before.
this is because the japanese found their "nickelback theory" the same melody, just different instruments, words, etc. i have noticed a lot of rehashing happen with GazettE and Gackt in particular. i love GazE and all, am just a little disappointed with the past few singles, Distress and Coma in particular. its a rehashed Bathroom.
like Gackt's Redemption. if you listen to that, and Mind Forest. it's the exact same melody and structure.
the nickelback theory. :) its when artists get lazy ;)
Dir en Grey happens to be one of the so called "pioneers" of the j-music movement in the west. every other band wants to be big like them. they know Dir en Grey music work with the fans, and so they get all the other artists to sound like them.
and if you don't already know, a lot of the big record companies in Japan are run by the Yakuza. the band's creativity does not become a priority once they are signed. they are to make what the record company thinks the fans will like. and of course, make the look the main focus of the whole thing.
good on Miyavi for moving on from PSC :)

Miyavifan 09-25-2009 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kufufunofu (Post 773184)
:rolleyes:
they "plagiarized" from what dir en grey song??

no.... the person is saying they plagiarized from Lynch, if I'm not mistaken.

lself 09-25-2009 04:15 AM

That's so stupid. I agree with crimson, many songs sound alike, because they have the same melody, i don't know how many times i've heard it. But it's not plagiarization, imo. Anyway, gazette even did two songs that did have the same melody or whatever, such as silly god disco/shadow viii. People are influenced by other bands, obviously. I love heidi though, because they are so unto themselves and and consistent in their style.

That's interesting, about the yakuza

TheCrimson 09-25-2009 10:10 PM

yeah, exactly. it doesnt count as plagiarism cause they all do it ;)
and yeah. the yakuza thing. don't you wonder why dir en grey haven't split up? musically they're just not together anymore, hence they don't have the creativity anymore. but they can't break up. their contract is a lifetime thing, the only way they can get out of it is death.
again, that's what i heard.
i don't think PSC is that bad though, as they let miyavi out, so hopefully GazE isnt in that much of a shit situation :)

Kufufunofu 09-26-2009 01:17 AM

^O.O!!!
wtf!
seriously!!the yakuza is involved in the whole music thing?!
wow..i've learned alot about jmusic this past week
LOL

lself 09-26-2009 05:06 AM

I'm sure there's many other things we don't know lol
anyway, here's the longer preview of before i decay

NanteNa 09-26-2009 01:15 PM

I'm really pissed. -_-'' Just saw a notification for the new DVD.
Over 100 bucks for the limited!
Who the hell smacked nails in their lunch? Aiiish! Are they insane??


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