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Qayin 08-22-2010 02:58 PM

Is AKB48 is a bit too sexy?
 
It's not that I don't like them (you know sometimes see teen girl in school uniform is quite good; may be I'm a perverted myself haha!).

But in the other hand sometime I feel a bit weird to see them act a bit ecchi in some MV, and the problem is many of them not even 18. Eventhough I'm a hahaha.... a ecchi myself, sometime I still feel my morality clash with my fantasy in my head. Do you feel the same?

And sorry if this topic is uncomfortable to some AKB48 fans. I don't mean to offense AKB, and I like them too. I just feel uncomfortable with some of their MVs. That's all.

MMM 08-22-2010 03:39 PM

It sounds like you are feeling a bit guilty about your own fetish fantasies.

Qayin 08-22-2010 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 825459)
It sounds like you are feeling a bit guilty about your own fetish fantasies.

Yeah, that's it. Sometime I feel guilty about it. I like them (and I like the other idol like Berryz or Buono too) but in the other hand I still feel guilty about it, especially when the other admire more mature, more mainstream artists.

Anyway, thank you for your comment. I just wanna see what the other think about this.

slystrawberry 08-22-2010 10:31 PM

never heard of them, are they any good, concerning their music?

AllICanSay 08-23-2010 01:08 PM

It's called fanservice and they are not the first to do that.

Click HERE for the PV of HEAVY ROTATION. If you want to know what Qayin is talking about watch the PV

JamboP26 08-23-2010 01:51 PM

I believe I know what you mean. Just enjoy it. They do it for entertainment value, so others can enjoy their work. I'm a huge fan of Buono!, & I don't care who knows it tbh. Maybe it's because I'm around the same age as Miyabi, Momoko & Airi (I'm 19), but I enjoy their PV's & songs. Just enjoy AKB48. & the fact you feel guilty about some of the MV's, is good. It shows your not one of those nutters into all that underage business :)

WingsToDiscovery 08-23-2010 02:32 PM

I was watching them on TV this morning. I don't really know them that well, but I can't imagine them doing something that offensive/obscene, per se. I mean, them acting a little "sexy" in their MVs is no where near as bad as some of the other underage girl stuff that goes on here.

Alexatjapanforum 08-23-2010 04:52 PM

I remember seeing that poster of them in their underwear at Tower Records when I was in Tokyo a couple months ago. I had no idea they were that young! They kind of look older to me, at least in that one picture I've seen.

Rethardus 08-23-2010 07:34 PM

Well, one of them even made an Adult Video, so don't worry about it.

ParaPara 08-24-2010 12:11 AM

What! No chance!

MMM 08-24-2010 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ParaPara (Post 825669)
What! No chance!

It is true. Obviously she is no longer a member of the group, and she changed her name.

Rethardus 08-24-2010 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ParaPara (Post 825669)
What! No chance!

Former AKB48 member enters the adult video industry | Ningin

Don't believe me? See it for yourself.

NanteNa 08-24-2010 08:38 PM

HAHAHAHA, I find none of them attractive - nor do I take anything they do seriously. Sex sells - even when you're underage. (ew, that sounded gross)

ParaPara 08-25-2010 04:22 AM

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I feel like AKB48 and examination is normal thing.
I don't understand the above.

MissMisa 08-25-2010 08:32 AM

I do think the whole thing is a little odd, but it's nothing I haven't seen before with other bands of this type.

It's taking it a little too far, but I guess it depends how you view it. I mean, I'm a young girl myself and I can see the cute factor, but I'm not really sure that it's an overly sexualised thing... to me, it's not, anyway.

Qayin 08-26-2010 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rethardus (Post 825735)

Somehow I grabbed some photo from that nude photobook already haha.

I heard that AKB wanna stop this AV selling. They said this AV damage their band image (or idol image) something like that.

chiuchimu 09-03-2010 04:02 PM

AKB48 fans
 
I just started getting into AKB48. I watched their Webster Hall performance in New York and was surprised to see the audience was mostly non-Asians(mostly whites, Hispanics, blacks etc...)

Any AKB48 fans?

Tturtle 09-03-2010 08:15 PM

yep. hello-online recently added akb48 pics

chiuchimu 09-04-2010 08:32 AM

^ Yeah, I saw that. A H!P site having an AKB forum. I think its cool. I like H!P like Buono!, C-ute and some MM. MM and AKB48 performed on the same stage during the 24 hour TV thing.

chiuchimu 09-09-2010 06:16 AM

I luv AKB48!

Kashiwagi yuki
Miyazaki Miho
Takajo Aki
Minegishi Minami
Itano tomomi
Sashihara Rino
Matsui Rena


Every Asian country will have their own version of AKB48 by the end of two years. The AKB48 format is revolutionary. It's like combining Reality TV with pop-Idols. I love their sexy, cute image.

chiuchimu 09-15-2010 09:18 PM

French Kiss Zutto mae Kara
 
Great song from sub unit of AKB48
Kashiwagi and Takajo are so cute!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8_zoWZQgs4

RealJames 12-25-2010 12:45 PM

Do you like these videos?
 




You wouldn't believe how popular they are here, the first one has over 11mil views, and I see it a lot in other places ><

Aniki 12-25-2010 03:10 PM

I'm already imagining teenage girls screaming KAWAIIII! while watching these videos in the other parts of the world.

evanny 12-25-2010 04:27 PM

2nd video reminds me when in movie Beowulf they did the thing - let's see how many objects we can put in front of his "little wolf" while he runs around naked.

and AKB48...well it's group that only could work in Japan. i just can't pay attention and take seriously music videos where there are so many singers, dancers and panties.

JamboP26 12-25-2010 11:23 PM

Yes. Very Kawaii (^_^)

Ronin4hire 12-26-2010 02:40 AM

This bubblegum pop sensation is not unique to Japan.

All that sh*t from Europe is exactly the same. S-club 7, Aqua, Spice girls, Venga boys...

WingsToDiscovery 12-26-2010 02:43 AM

I don't even question it anymore.

RealJames 12-26-2010 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Ronin4hire (Post 843504)
This bubblegum pop sensation is not unique to Japan.

All that sh*t from Europe is exactly the same. S-club 7, Aqua, Spice girls, Venga boys...

but do they look like they are 12 years old?
and if they don't look 12, do they look like they are trying to look like they are 12?

and is it the 12 year oldishness that everyone loves about it and calls awesome?

iridescentkiss 12-26-2010 06:21 AM

*wrinkles nose*

Ronin4hire 12-27-2010 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RealJames (Post 843512)
but do they look like they are 12 years old?
and if they don't look 12, do they look like they are trying to look like they are 12?

and is it the 12 year oldishness that everyone loves about it and calls awesome?

I wouldn't go as young as 12. To me they look 16-18. Especially in the 2nd vid.

I don't know what the appeal is. I mean obviously they're pretty women(girls?) but that's about it.

princessmarisa 12-28-2010 02:34 AM

Why are you calling the AKB48 idols lolicon in the poll?

Umihito 12-29-2010 06:16 PM

I love how so far no one has voted that lolicon is messed up XD

RealJames 12-30-2010 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by princessmarisa (Post 843720)
Why are you calling the AKB48 idols lolicon in the poll?

James asks any sane random Japanese person: "Is AKB ロリコン?"
Any sane random Japanese person replies: "うん、めっちゃ" / "Yeah, totally"

The more important question is why isn't anyone here calling it that? o.O lol

Umihito 12-30-2010 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by RealJames (Post 844073)
The more important question is why isn't anyone here calling it that? o.O lol

Guess to most people here they pass as looking 'old enough' for what they're doing in the vids...
And tut tut... still no votes on that last option 0_o

MMM 12-30-2010 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by RealJames (Post 844073)
James asks any sane random Japanese person: "Is AKB ロリコン?"
Any sane random Japanese person replies: "うん、めっちゃ" / "Yeah, totally"

The more important question is why isn't anyone here calling it that? o.O lol

ロリコン is not the girls, but the old man who is obsessed with them. ロリコン is the disease/sickness/complex.

RealJames 12-30-2010 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 844104)
ロリコン is not the girls, but the old man who is obsessed with them. ロリコン is the disease/sickness/complex.

the complex, yes that's right.

in spoken Japanese it isn't uncommon for it to be used the way I've used it though.

But, in correct English I suppose I should say that AKB is appealing to those afflicted by the Lolita complex. This is hardly a disputed point among the majority of Japanese people.

Ronin4hire 12-30-2010 04:52 AM

As much as I hate AKB48 (I think they're hot though)

Liking them doesn't mean you have a lolita complex.

RealJames 12-30-2010 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Ronin4hire (Post 844108)
As much as I hate AKB48 (I think they're hot though)

Liking them doesn't mean you have a lolita complex.

No it just means you like girls that try to look and act younger/childish.
That's not lolita at all.... right.. ?

(that's the sound of denial by the way ;)

WingsToDiscovery 12-30-2010 04:58 AM

I don't know if there's any explanation for this (my friend and I could be totally wrong), but we were talking the other day about how many girls here walk around with their bangs over their faces and basically staring at the ground. And if they happen to be wearing a scarf, they often have it totally wrapped around their faces and then assume the staring at the ground with bangs over their faces as they walk, basically making it impossible to see their faces. Not every girl does this, but a significant enough amount to actually draw attention to myself and several people I know to notice it.

I'm basically wondering if this has anything to do with the objectification of girls here (in forms such as lolicon)? Do these girls do this "burqa" style to stop men from staring at them? Just something that's been on my mind and felt appropriate to post in this thread.

Ronin4hire 12-30-2010 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by RealJames (Post 844110)
No it just means you like girls that try to look and act younger/childish.
That's not lolita at all.... right.. ?

(that's the sound of denial by the way ;)

I said they were hot. I didn't say I liked them.

And what does it mean to be childish? The sexual angst that is popular in the west is just as childish as the fake innocence that is popular in the East.


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