Budo
 

Hello
Anyone who practise Bujinkan ninpo taijutsu here?

Tony

No, But I would love to! Do you practise it?

what is that? is it some kind of a martial arts?

Yes i have traied a couple of years now:) It's fun

Yes it's a marital art over 900 years old.
Do you practise any thing?

Is it hard to learn from the begining? Hasn't this some connection to the Ninjas?

Well everything is hard in the beginning before you know how you do it, is it not.

Ninjas comes from bujinkan or ninjutsu, but ninjas at the movies and their techniques is very diffrente from realiety ninjutsu.

aha okay, How long have you been practise?

Have been practising in about 12-13 years now with small breaks

aha du är svensk! :D Vart bor du? :)

Bor i göteborg och du?

lol, when I first saw the title I thought you guys were talking about grapes.

I Mellerud i Dalsland, det närmaste stället där dom tränar Budo är Uddevalla tror jag. :)

Vet att de har Bujinkan i Trollhättan, kanske i Mellerud oxo.

Jaha Trollhättan kanske det är!
Det verkar kul, har velat träna det ett tag nu. Kanske
ska flytta till Trollhättan nu när jag börjar gymnasiumet. :)

tycker jag att du skall göra:)

i was in stephen's shoot off from the bujinkan....

You have trained for Stephen Hayes...wow:)
How long have you been practise bujinkan?

Tony

lol its not bujinkan, i think his name of people who have reached 10-15 dan has been taken off the wall of the honbu dojo, so...

i only did it for about a month or two, i wanted the old school...when you cut up a system, you lose some parts, that was supposed to go together...(like piqua and baji)

Oki i understand. It's sad that they do that.
I have trained the "traditional way" with nine schools (or 16 to more correct).
Do you train any other budoart?

Oki..maybe you right about that you said about Hatsumi.
which sensei did you have when you practised ninjutsu?

not really, beacuse the 16 were separate and then fused together as more systems died out, or found successors that already had successed other schools, and those schools just because part of a persons ability. But stephen hayes cut out whats "not useful", when i think "human is a human, an arm bar works, but its pretty old technique, so..." Plus ther are many times where a person would get into an "awkward looking stance" like i think its calle dkome or komu, don't remember, and the attacker attacks and ended up dead, but the martial artist DID not seem threatening, and hterefore was off the hook becasue of bystanders...read it on a post on martialtalk.com bout people who used stances that didn't like liek fighting stances, or aggressive stances and the guy ran into a neckbreak,choke,piss your pants technique and ended up laid out...( i know i sound like a destructive ass-but that's what happened so...)

you must not know the rule for the honbu dodjo. ANYONE can try and strike a 5th dan or higher, but any pain you feel after your try is on you...lol. How many dojos do you think have that rule? What do you think the 5th dan test is? a person has to dodge a boken, have you got knocked in the head with a boken before, THAT SHIT HURTS!!! (me and my friends...) You say one thing, but I want you to have some take a camera hold and I want you to swing on anyone 5th dan in the honbu dojo...Anyone, IF the camera, which repeatedly can't even pic up on the moves of nunjutsu as they move, sees you HIT the guy squarely then alright, you prove your poiint, if the camera, shows your swing, blur, your end up on your face with an arm broken, I laugh...okay. I'm serious, you can travel, right. You're going to china, you have that much cash, go to japan for 2 days, go to the honbu, where hatsumi is, and swing on a 5th dan or more...bring a camera and put it on youtube...i WANT TO SEE IT!! PLUS shaolin QUAN doesn't exist. The shaolin temple is made up of different arts (like bujinkan taijutsu is) that take after animal forms. And why go to china for taichi quan? Also, why not go to china for Qi Gong, it would be much more worth your time...1 finger energy release and all that (proven fact of qigong is that you hand radiates particals onto a persons body, proven fact) An a credited qi gong practinioner is hard to find in the states is all i know...so...

another thing, why aren't you in krav maga...Isreal uses it and teaches it to their military and APPARENTLY IT FREAKIN WORKS?!?!?!

what i'm asking is words are one thing, a fight with RULES is another, and real fighting is another, muay thai was used as a way fighting a war, then turned sport...nothing more i can say about that...and shaolin...shaolin never exported ANY of their martial arts...so i don't get what your talking about...

yeah but you talk about war, war is war...coward doesn't exist, kill or be killed...lol

desperation has kept my grandpa alive in WW2 or was it the one in the 50's...either way desperation and losing your head are different...lol...the will to live...death isn't so bad...true, but i have to say i don't agree that desperation is weakness. If that was true, why capitalize on any of the warring countries weak points? Why do espionage missions or anything liek that even happen? why not pull a european miliatary during the revolutionary war (where america won its freedom from britain, one factor was that american's didn't sit there like idiots to get shot, they hid behind rocks and trees) and stand in straight lines? What I'm saying is the people in the upper levels are using you to get what they want, all you got to do is stay alive (granted, easier said than done.) They use dirty tricks and they put you on the platter for WHATEVER they might want, so why don't you say, fuck "honor" and "pride", because that only goes so far....

okay, uuuum unless your japanese, please stop speaking with bushido in mind, in front of death the propaganda of japan convinced young people 15 and up to jump into planes and kill themselves, who knows what kind of talent they killed off...lol I want to know, why self sacrifice is good. If its one life for another, that comes to zero...if its a new life for an old life, that is different, the old life knew things and wanted to teach the new one some things...but to sacrifice new life for old life, DOESN'T make sense...

Budo? My friend does Budo... Is it hard? I wanna try it.

budo is just a way of categorizing matial arts...kendo, kyudo, aikido, are a part of budo. Bujutsu is about the same, kenjutsu, kyujutsu, yagyujutsu, etc...Jutsu is usually known for being dangerously reality based so...And then you start going from one country to the next...

Kokunin:
Being Japanese is not a requirement for following 武士道 (way of the Warrior). There are warriors in every culture that study martial applications. Following the path and being an actual Japanese warrior or 侍 (samurai) are two different things. In addition, we are no longer living in the era of the 幕府 (shogunate) so technically anyone could become one. I do agree though that there is no such thing as a "fair" way to fight a war. War has only one objective which is defeat the enemy. You use whatever tactics, strategy, and technology that you have at your disposal.

Tenchu:I would agree that if two people were having a match and one of them because desperate and starting grabbing testicles and eye gouging it would be unacceptable. As for war or combative fighting in Japan, we have two different philosophies. We have the way a samurai would approach combat and the way a ninja would approach combat. They both understand how each other fights and if they happen to meet they won't wonder if the other person will use some type of "unfair" tactic. The only thing they think about is eliminating their target.

Comparison:
War = a cruel, catastrophic, ruleless, destructive way of fighting
Duel = a more controlled, honorable, specified method of fighting

とにかく、武道より葡萄の方が好きです。丸くて旨いで す。

"In budo, too, there are three important essentials: first, seeing and knowing
oneself, one's own strengths and limitations; second, the sword of
discrimination, of decisiveness, for eliminating faults, weaknesses, and the
unnecessary; and last, the sincerity, feeling, devotion, insight, and
understanding of the heart.
There are three kinds of Budoka: ones that try to look strong, ones that try to
perfect their technique and ones that try to gain a good heart"

-Masaaki Hatsumi