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Excessum 09-28-2007 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by terra104 (Post 250748)
alright then... what about those who already have unconscious tendencies to act aggressively?
they might be the typical next door neighbour, or classmate... dont u think these games might trigger simethin that leads to acting out these tendencies?

I believe this was answered a thread or two before you... If he is a killer, anything can trigger him, may it be a video game or a drop of blood from his finger... that's why i, personally, put the word "general" when posting my opinion, as it applies to general public, not unstable/psychopathic subjects.

zenit 09-28-2007 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by terra104 (Post 250748)
alright then... what about those who already have unconscious tendencies to act aggressively?
they might be the typical next door neighbour, or classmate... dont u think these games might trigger simethin that leads to acting out these tendencies?

Ok, and about the people who are stressed one day and they have a car crash and go beserk and kill the other guy? doesnt he have any responsability? You cant protect everyone like that, violence is an everyday presence, games and in real life, people need to teach kids how to deal with violence and all, not protect them from everything. Like they say u should let a kid get dirty because it makes them resistent to infections and all. ;)

Acidreptile 09-28-2007 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by zenit (Post 250753)
Ok, and about the people who are stressed one day and they have a car crash and go beserk and kill the other guy? doesnt he have any responsability? You cant protect everyone like that, violence is an everyday presence, games and in real life, people need to teach kids how to deal with violence and all, not protect them from everything. Like they say u should let a kid get dirty because it makes them resistent to infections and all. ;)

Well said mate.:D

MMM 09-28-2007 08:28 PM

The general concensus among American psychologists is that Violence on TV and in video games does affect children that are PRONE to violent behavior. For children that are not prone to violent behavior, violent TV shows or video games do NOT have any negative effects.

Acidreptile 09-28-2007 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 250794)
The general concensus among American psychologists is that Violence on TV and in video games does affect children that are PRONE to violent behavior. For children that are not prone to violent behavior, violent TV shows or video games do NOT have any negative effects.

But think well if it's like that,do you remember Mortal Kombat,for example?I saw many little kids playing it and they did not tried to make any "Fatalities" or "Animalities" with the friends.And what about Grand Theft Auto Vice City?At that game you have to steal cars,and you are part of a gang and still,I haven't seen any kid trying to steal cars or joining gangs because they were influenced by those games.

MMM 09-28-2007 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Acidreptile (Post 250798)
But think well if it's like that,do you remember Mortal Kombat,for example?I saw many little kids playing it and they did not tried to make any "Fatalities" or "Animalities" with the friends.And what about Grand Theft Auto Vice City?At that game you have to steal cars,and you are part of a gang and still,I haven't seen any kid trying to steal cars or joining gangs because they were influenced by those games.

Read what I said. Kids that were PRONE TO VIOLENCE acted in more violent horse-play after playing violent video games. These are kids with self-control and acting out issues. The key point that in kids that were NOT PRONE TO VIOLENT PLAY (basically, normal kids) did NOT show any more violent horse-play after playing violent video games or watching violence on TV. The conclusion was that normal kids were not negatively affected. The games didn't make non-violent kids violent.

terra104 09-28-2007 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 250803)
Read what I said. Kids that were PRONE TO VIOLENCE acted in more violent horse-play after playing violent video games. These are kids with self-control and acting out issues. The key point that in kids that were NOT PRONE TO VIOLENT PLAY (basically, normal kids) did NOT show any more violent horse-play after playing violent video games or watching violence on TV. The conclusion was that normal kids were not negatively affected. The games didn't make non-violent kids violent.

EXACTLY.. well said MMM!

Acidreptile 09-28-2007 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 250803)
Read what I said. Kids that were PRONE TO VIOLENCE acted in more violent horse-play after playing violent video games. These are kids with self-control and acting out issues. The key point that in kids that were NOT PRONE TO VIOLENT PLAY (basically, normal kids) did NOT show any more violent horse-play after playing violent video games or watching violence on TV. The conclusion was that normal kids were not negatively affected. The games didn't make non-violent kids violent.

Got the point.;)

DarknessDescends 09-28-2007 08:58 PM

Wasn't that what I said in like, the 3rd post in this thread? O_o lol

forgotenmemory 09-28-2007 09:00 PM

Actually I could be used as an example! (12 year old boy here) well I play fantasy violence like final fantasy etc but not shotting games like F.E.A.R does games scare the hell out of me!!

Anyway if I see a cool move in a game or movie I would have the urge to use it on somebody but I don't! and if I actually play a shotting game I wouldn't feel like killing or hurting somebody. So there it might and it might not and I'm not really violent! *mugs little kid* umm...that proves nothing! :)


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