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This thread has bunch of lies and dream crushing speaks.

It is true, that living in Japan is a hard task, and not everyone can handel the preasure the world throws at them.

Yes you need money to live, and working gives you that. But there are always ways to cross money problems. Always have been and always will be...

If you are lucky, you might have a friend or a contact in Japan, who can let you live at his/her place for as long as you need till you get on your feets.

This kind of thing would solve most of the problems for those who seek to go in Japan with not much skill or knowledge of it.

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Knowing how to speak japanese, is one huge advantage in Japan. This way you can understand others and make conversations, which can lead you to the most pleasent things.

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Moving to Japan is not about going there to work... This is my main thing I want to point out.

This topic still lives!:vsign:

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Originally Posted by sunbreaker6 (Post 848899)

Doesn't matter how much money you have if you don't have the paperwork.

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Originally Posted by sunbreaker6 (Post 848899)

This thread has bunch of lies and dream crushing speaks.

Rubbish it's full of sound, practical advice for those genuinely looking to live here. It's not for those with fantastical ideas that have no basis in reality and will remain only dreams if they do not heed the advice given here. The advice is from those that have lived or are currently living in Japan who have experienced what it takes to make a life in this country.

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Originally Posted by GoNative (Post 848951)

If he spend time to look through all the posts, nobody said you cannot live there... the question is to live there LEGALLY..... Theoratically, one can live anywhere for as long as they want as long as he or she doesn't get caught, and have enough money to survive and pay for basic needs...

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Originally Posted by sunbreaker6 (Post 848899)

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Knowing how to speak japanese, is one huge advantage in Japan. This way you can understand others and make conversations, which can lead you to the most pleasent things.

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Moving to Japan is not about going there to work... This is my main thing I want to point out.

So you want to move there and live on the street and beg for money????? Or just crash at friends place in hope that money will come out of the water tap????

Knowing how o speak Japanese is one huge advantage in Japan... Just like being able to speak english is an advantage in North America or the UK... oh wait, that will also make the ability to speak Korean a huge advantage in Korea..... Wow, what a concept....

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Originally Posted by sunbreaker6 (Post 848899)

If you are lucky, you might have a friend or a contact in Japan, who can let you live at his/her place for as long as you need till you get on your feets.

This kind of thing would solve most of the problems for those who seek to go in Japan with not much skill or knowledge of it.

Yeah, you'll be all right, totally........

Until your 90 day tourist visa expires. :D

No matter how 'on your feet you are,' if you're not gone by then you'll be an illegal immigrant, and face deportation if you're caught. Plus you can't work without a work visa, and guess what you need for that.... a 4 year degree

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Originally Posted by sunbreaker6 (Post 848899)

Yes you need money to live, and working gives you that. But there are always ways to cross money problems. Always have been and always will be...

Yes, you need to work and in order to work, you'll need the appropriate visa. The best way to secure one is to start off by graduating from college. Hence this topic.

I am sure it has already been said - sorry, but I could not bother to read through all 61 pages of this massive thread - but the title and the OP makes a lot of sense. Getting a college degree greatly improves your chances of being able to reside here legally.

Of course, if all you want is 30 to 89 days, then no need - just come over on a visa waiver as a tourist if your country qualifies.

Or, if you have the funds - you might try studying at one of the colleges in Japan. I know some people who have done it successfully. However, coming over as a transfer student on exchange is more common - and that includes Rotary Exchange. And, for those who managed to get one of those comfortable Monbusho scholarships, but I've met more who've gotten the research scholarships - which generally requires a college degree...

For the most part, the overall conditions for visas and visa approval are being applied more stringently. Take a look at some of the examples being put out by Japanese Immigration on applicants they rejected for permanent residency... in the past, they probably would have been a near-automatic shoe-in. You can expect similar tightening up for Specialist in Humanities and International Services visa:

Permission for Permanent Residence

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[Unsuccessful Applicants for Permanent Residence Status]
(Case #1)
The applicant allegedly produces, fosters and exports Japanese race horses, serves as a management consultant for horse-producing farmers and gives lectures. However, the immigration control authority denied the permanent residence status because the applicant has stayed in Japan only for a short period (1 year and a half).

(Case #2)
The applicant allegedly produces and owns many fine art works as an artist painter and donates his works to newly-opened art museums. However, the immigration control authority denied the permanent residence status because the applicant has a bad record (he was involved inforeign national's illegal stay in Japan).

(Case #3)
The applicant allegedly serves as a teacher at an educational institute forforeign national's children's. However, the immigration control authority denied the permanent residence status because such applicant's activities do not fall under social contribution to Japan.

(Case #4)
The applicant allegedly works at high school as a teacher for a year and is involved with volunteer activities as such as interpreter. However, the immigration control authority denied the permanent residence status because such applicant's activities do not fall under social contribution to Japan.

(Case #5)
The applicant started his new business in Japan and still runs such business. However, his investments, profit level or other business performances are not so significant. The immigration control authority denied the permanent residence status because the authority does not find it contribution to Japanese economy or industries so much.

(Case #6)
The applicant has worked on his research activities as a research student at university. However, as he engages in his research activities under guidance of professor, his research activities are almost the same as those of ordinary students. The immigration control authority denied the permanent residence status because the authority does not find it contribution in Japan's research field so much.

(Case #7)
The applicant has served as a director at an investment firm. However, the immigration control authority denied the permanent residence status because the authority does not find it contribution to Japanese economy and has not made other contributions to Japan.

(Case #8)
The applicant has served as an assistant director at a system developer firm. However, the immigration control authority denied the permanent residence status because the authority does not find it contribution to Japanese economy so much and have not made other contributions to Japan.

(Case #9)
The applicant has stayed in Japan for about 9 years, has composed music and held recitals for playing his own compositions served, and has allegedly made significant efforts in interactions in music between Japan and his home nation. However, the immigration control authority denied the permanent residence status because the authority does not find it contribution in Japan's cultural and art scenes so much.

(Case #10)
The applicant has stayed in Japan for about 9 years, has coordinated Japanese artists' many performance shows in his home nation, and has allegedly engaged in holding events to encourage mutual understandings between Japanese firms and corporations in his home nations. However, the immigration control authority denied the permanent residence status because the authority does not find it contribution to Japan.

(Case #11)
Since entering Japan, the applicant has stayed in Japan for 3 years as an international student. Then, he served as an assistant at Japan's medical school for 5 years. However, the immigration control authority denied the permanent residence status because the authority does not find it contribution to improving Japan's higher education level.

(Case #12)
The applicant entered Japan as an assistant teacher of foreign language, having spent the first 3 years as a teacher of a junior high school in Japan and then about 4 years as a teacher in a senior high school. However, the immigration control authority did not find it contribution to improving the level of Japan’s higher education, judging that applicant’s career in Japan is not equivalent to that of full-time teachers, professors, assistant professors or lecturers of university or equivalent academic institution, and thus denied the permanent residence status. (The applicant has stayed in Japan for 6 years and 11 months.)

And, let's say you argue that all you want to do is come here to cosplay and otherwise fuck around. Unless you have your parents sending over $40,000 every year, you need to work. In the past, anyone on a Cultural Visa (say you wanted to study Karate, Aikido etc) would (and still do) rely upon that old reliable fallback - engrish teaching. White Europeans from non-English speaking countries could even get decent gigs in contrast to Asian Americans or anyone else who 'did not look gaijin enough'. That situation still exists but things have been tightening up over time. More places demand a college degree, for example.

Want some advice on what to do to best prepare? Read the OP's post. Go to college and forget some weird fantasy that the Imperial Household Agency has been reading your posts and the emperor will extend a personal invitation for you to stay at the palace for as long as you wish eating moon cakes and doing cosplay... "don't be stealing my dream~~~~!"

funny ending steel:D

Sorry as steel already said, it is a huge thread, so i couldn`t read all things which were said.

I´m from Germany, we have a few other educational systems like other countries.

Like the dual apprenticeship.
So you are quallified in a few aspects.

I Think you could still go to each Country with some significant knowledge.

Something like the World wide knowlegde in chemistry laws.
I don`t know how many of you have heard already about GHS (global hamroniziced system).

Even if it is the first step to harmonice the chemistry laws for labeling and other stuff, many Nations have their own GHS.

In Europe you have got REACH and CLP, R-phrses and S-phrses in GHS and CLP you get the H- and P-phrases.

to Transport your products in a other country you would have to Maintain many datas.

I hope to get to Japan as a buisness trip, for my company.

There are more ways than study on a college for 4 years.
But i will agree with all the others that it is a harder way.

My way is a way too, but first you need to get a company which is willing to send you to Japan, in Japan you have work and payment, but you are still their with a Visa.

So you need to do an excellent work, get used to the culture and other things if you want to stay.
Probably you could only stay with a lot of help.
And you need your company too, but even so you could get eventually only a working Visa.
If you could stay or not will be decided in the time you are in Japan.

So you should be prepared to be forced back.

You have always many ways which you could go...
Just try your way, but be prepared, it might not work.

Fact is, a higher skill level is alway better to get the things you want.:cool: