as long you have a desire to do something, it might make your dream come true.. believing something is an important step towards realising it.. wish u all da best!

You mean me?

I am just saying if you are saving money now because Japan is expensive, that money would be better spent on college tuition rather than living expenses in Japan, because there aren't going to be any living expenses in Japan without a visa which means job which means college education.

Yeah but why spent on college tuition? you dont have to go to college to be able to achieve something in life.....i went to college to study art and desided it wasnt what i wanted to do and left. half the people who go to college are no better off than those who didnt. id rather spend my money on something that will work towards what i really want to do!!

Thank you!! its people like you that incourage others to what ever it is they want!! i wish you all the best in whatever you do aswell!

That's interesting. The friends I know that have graduated from college are employed right now. One that hasn't and who is looking for work (and has been for nearly a year) is told time and time again that he would be more employable if he finished college.

This is even more true in Japan.

I am not trying to discourage you, but why would the Japanese government want an unemployed non-graduate in the country when there are thousands of diploma-holding, employed foreigners trying to get in? Do the right steps and make your dream come true.

I didnt graduate from college and i have a full time job! and I wasnt saying that everyone who goes to college is no better off than everyone who doesnt! Just for me its different, i am doing the right steps to make my dream come true and that doesnt involve college and never will! i dont want to spend a couple of years in college when i could be out their trying to do it. you dont need to be a college or university graduate to get somewhere in life. If you want something bad enough you will always find a way to make it happen.

lol neither of us are going to win, cause its easy to see that your someone who is for further education and im not (for myself) neither of which is wrong! we just have different opinions! :)

I used to agree with this when I was about 7.
You can desire to be the next president of the US someday, but does that mean it will happen?
There's nothing wrong with dreaming of become something that you want to do, but at least do what you need for it to happen.


I do too.

But not in Japan. That's the point.
Japan is a very difficult nation to move to.
And even harder without a degree.

Now here is something I can totally agree on.

Up until this year, I wasn't a college graduate either. Just had a little bit of college and graduated from Business School for Accounting. I lost my job in 2007; I've been having a tough time finding a new full-time one since then, especially with the slumping economy. When weeding out candidates, the ones without the degree, are the ones who usually have their resumes ignored and tossed, unless the applicant can compensate that with many years of work experience.

My mother doesn't have a college degree, but, she does have almost 35 years experience in what she does, so for her, she probably wouldn't have a tough time if it ever came to her having to find another job.

My aunt lost her job last fall, but she has a Bachelor's degree and one class from a Masters, work experience, and found a job fast. She lost her job in October, had a new one by January of this year.

I'm just finishing up getting my Bachelor's degree, and even though it's taken me a while, I finally managed to get a full time job as an Administrative Assistant. I pray this lasts. ^^ I admire this ideal, but realistically, one usually has a better chance at certain jobs or might have an easier time obtaining a job with a degree as opposed to one without, unless there's something the one without the degree can offer that the one with the degree can't and I'm pretty sure experience may count here.

Getting a job in Japan, though, seems the best route is to just get a college degree. You'd be killing two birds with one stone. One, it helps your chances at getting a job in your homeland and it helps you with the work visa issues if you ever want to work in Japan without having to go the long route of finding a company that'll hire you and sponsor your visa.Nothing wrong with that. What MMM is saying, though, is that you'd better your chances if you did go to college for something and graduate and getting to Japan would be easier.

The point is you WON'T get a work visa in Japan without a degree period. Now it doesn't matter what the degree is in.

It doesn't matter that the job may not require it, the gov't DOES !

Only way around that is to marry a national.

Even if a company was willing to vouch for you it wouldn't matter.

Immigration is pretty strict that way, it sucks but that's the way it is.

I'm really thinking to come to Tokyo to study Japanese.
I was thinking about staying with a host family also.
When I'm in Japan they do think I'm Japanese, even though I'm not.
I don't speak too much Japanese, yet every time I am In Japan people do come up to me and start speaking in Japanese, most of the time I just stand there confused -_-

I was wondering is it hard to make friends in Japan?
I am 16 years of age, and curious.

Thank you :ywave: