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Akakage 08-05-2008 01:08 AM

Japan's Immigration Policy
 
I will be going to Japan in October to live and work for a year, and I have been looking for as much information as possible on Japan and daily life so I can handle the culture shock.

I came across this article that talks about the change in the immigration laws that will coming in the future for Japan. It's good information for any who are planning on coming here in the future.

How Immigration Policy is Trying to Change With the Times

At the beginning of this year the Japanese government announced certain changes it is hoping to introduce to the immigration system in early 2009. One of these changes is the introduction of a language component to the visa application process.

Currently, skilled workers applying for a working visa in Japan do not need to demonstrate any knowledge of Japanese language. The proposed changes could see an element of language testing introduced that would enable someone who was applying for an extension of their visa to be granted one for five years (under current regulations the maximum length of stay is three years). The government stressed that any language tests would not be compulsory to acquiring a visa and that the usual routes for people with no language skills would still be open. The changes are intended to increase opportunities for long-term stay for people who, without the changes and under the present conditions, may find it difficult to do so.

Unsurprisingly, the announcements received mixed reviews from all sectors of society. Some foreign workers make a great deal of effort to acclimatise to Japan and its culture including studying and becoming proficient in Japanese. These people welcomed the announcement, as they felt it acknowledged their efforts and rewarded them for it. Others were slightly more cynical, believing that the changes would act as a barrier to entry. This, in turn, would make other countries where no such testing exists, such as Hong Kong and Singapore, more attractive destinations. Mr. Masahiko Komura, State Secretary for Foreign Affairs of Japan, insisted that from the government’s view, the modifications are an attempt to deregulate the current system and open it up more. A look at the wider picture reveals that there may be more than one benefit to these proposals.

While Japan is not the only country facing the difficult issues that an ageing population brings, the demographic shift currently occurring is happening so quickly that issues related to it, such as gender roles, social support, work-life balance, and immigration are suddenly being forced on to centre stage. Prevailing conditions and attitudes within society mean that changes to the status quo are often felt quite acutely, making any implementation a monumental task.

Traditionally homogeneous, the question of immigration into Japan is probably still one of the most sensitive. The government conducted a survey last year in several areas of Japan where the local population is struggling to cope with a high percentage of foreign workers. More than 50% of the foreign respondents surveyed indicated that they would welcome more interaction with local Japanese people, while less than 10% of the Japanese respondents reciprocated the same desire. In view of this, the changes suggested by the government could be seen as a way to appease the local population to what is likely going to be a large influx of foreigners into the country in the next few years. (To give an idea of the potential numbers involved, to maintain population levels at 2006 figures would require an additional 650,000 people to move here annually.) While immigration is unlikely to occur at this intensity, as more companies cite their need to employ people from overseas, the demand-driven influx of foreign workers is unlikely to pass by unnoticed. If the government can assure residents that they are doing everything they can to make this a smooth process then they may also hope that there will be less resistance to it.

So how could encouraging foreign workers to learn Japanese help? Experience is showing that assimilation of large groups of foreigners, especially in the more rural areas where jobs tend to be, is not always easy or smooth. A government official from one such area speaks of a “constant, low-level tension” that includes differences of opinion over matters such as parking spaces, noise, and rubbish. Encouraging people to speak Japanese could be a way to introduce them to the culture while making them more sensitive to community expectations, although there is no guarantee that one will necessarily lead to the other. Britain, which recently added a language component to their visa requirements, simultaneously introduced a “citizenship test.” This simple test requires people who want to live and work in the UK to show that they have some understanding of how society operates. Something similar in Japan may help to alleviate some of these more localized problems, as it will ensure that newcomers gain an insight into how their community functions on a daily basis and what part they are able and expected to play in it. It would be a way to “sensitize” them to life in Japan. With this in mind, it would probably be more appropriate to introduce such a test in the initial stages of somebody’s stay and certainly no later than one year after their arrival.

Another hope that the government may have in trying to stimulate interest in learning Japanese is the growth of the Japanese language industry overseas. This would have the added benefit of introducing Japan to large numbers of people who may never have considered it previously. If someone can speak the language, it stands to reason that they are more likely to want to visit. In the case of young people, it could further their interest and induce them to move here for work.

There is no one easy answer and for every solution proposed, a dozen more problems are unearthed. Recognizing where potential lies must be key to government policy and one angle that cannot be overlooked must surely be the encouragement of people from other countries to not only come to Japan for work but to put down roots and make a real, positive, and long-lasting contribution to society in general. With ever-greater stress being put on Japan to open up, issues of protectionism and security are necessarily brought to the table. Officials do at least seem to be moving some way towards deregulating the immigration system, but these latest announcements suggest that they are not intending to make any sudden changes very soon.

Sangetsu 08-05-2008 04:41 AM

This law is designed primarily for Brazilian auto workers, who, for the most part, haven't seemed to want to learn or to speak Japanese. Most other workers in Japan do not stay for so long. Teachers get 1 to 3 year visas, as do most other professionals who work in the country. Most professional jobs require little Japanese knowledge, and as most assignments to Japan are usually temporary, there is no great need to learn the language.

Auto workers, on the other hand, often work in the factories for many years. For safety's sake, and for the sake of preventing a non-literate second class of people to develop, the visa plan is a good idea.

kireikoori 08-05-2008 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Sangetsu (Post 555524)
Haven't seemed to want to learn or to speak Japanese.

That is unfortunate.
If you go to another country, it's should be expected that you want to make an effort to learn their language. Especially if you plan on living there.

Also, why do most professional jobs not require knowledge of Japanese?

Shanis 08-05-2008 10:32 AM

I think it´s like in the netherlands, as an immigrant you don´t get the high class jobs from beginng (i don´t even think you ever get them as long as you need a visa to stay there) so you only get the jobs in which you don´t have to talk much, or you have to talk in english (or spanish or so).... But is it possible to stay in japan forever and live there (and don´t forget the work :D). I personally would try it, as a teacher or cook or something like that.

Paul11 08-05-2008 11:30 AM

Speaking of culture shock: Get the book "Culture Shock: Japan." You will thank me. It will help you understand when you are feeling it and how it comes and goes in waves. Had a chap, after being in country a few months, I've been nervous and find myself doing things I wouldn't normally do. (don't read too much into that.) If he knew what he was dealing with he might have done better. i know that's only one example.

When you thank me, a simple gift card will do. Any major retail chain will be fine.

Nyororin 08-06-2008 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul11 (Post 555676)
Speaking of culture shock: Get the book "Culture Shock: Japan."

Yes, get that book if you want to read an entirely negatively biased view of Japan - with unpleasant comments on pretty much every aspect of Japanese life and culture. Get the book if you want to talk yourself out of visiting or living in Japan.

I *really* hate that book. Yes, it presents a fair amount of useful information... But almost all of it is wrapped in a veil of negativity. If you`re expecting awful culture shock, you`ll start looking for it... and find it. Some people really do have problems adjusting to another culture, but I do not feel that reading something negative toward the other culture is going to help them at all. It just makes the shock more acute, and gives them an even worse attitude toward it instead of trying to understand and overcome it.

In other words - I highly discourage reading that book. Unless, of course, you want to hunt down any reason you can not to enjoy Japan.

Paul11 08-06-2008 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Nyororin (Post 556016)
Yes, get that book if you want to read an entirely negatively biased view of Japan - with unpleasant comments on pretty much every aspect of Japanese life and culture. Get the book if you want to talk yourself out of visiting or living in Japan.

I *really* hate that book. Yes, it presents a fair amount of useful information... But almost all of it is wrapped in a veil of negativity. If you`re expecting awful culture shock, you`ll start looking for it... and find it. Some people really do have problems adjusting to another culture, but I do not feel that reading something negative toward the other culture is going to help them at all. It just makes the shock more acute, and gives them an even worse attitude toward it instead of trying to understand and overcome it.

In other words - I highly discourage reading that book. Unless, of course, you want to hunt down any reason you can not to enjoy Japan.

well, the point of the book is to prepare one for the difficulties of living in Japan and recognize the psychological stress of being a stranger in a strange land there. I don't think it left me with a negative impression of Japan. there are criticisms of any community and I don't think it's negative to understand them.

You know from previous conversations I don't believe in being romantic about a place, even if it's a place one loves. I take the good with the bad and enjoy it anyway. I have new kitten that my three-year-old girl named "Ice Cat." :confused: I love that kitten, even though i know she will attempt to scratch my furniture and leave hair all-over my clean house. I must be aware of the difficult stuff to deal with this cat because if I think it's going to be all hugs, purrs and head bumps i would be in for a rude awakening.

Does that analogy make any sense?

I loved "Dogs and Demons" by Alex Kerr, too. A person who loves and lives in Japan, but has written a social critique. I'm sure you hated it if read?

Nyororin 08-06-2008 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul11 (Post 556105)
I loved "Dogs and Demons" by Alex Kerr, too. A person who loves and lives in Japan, but has written a social critique. I'm sure you hated it if read?

No. That book was accurate, and was about the real problems in Japan. They were presented realistically, not with a big scoop of the author`s personal dislike of things.

In other words - there is a difference between critiquing problems in social structure (governmental in the case of Dogs and Demons)... And just negatively poking at every aspect of normal Japanese life.
It is indeed VERY different. I`m sure that you would feel different about reading a book talking about the shortcomings of the US government and why they ended up this way than, say, a book looking at every aspect of American life and culture with derision. One of those books points out a problem which can potentially be solved. The other points out something(everything?) the author found irritating, and bashes them. In the process the book drags down everyone else who reads it.

I read Culture Shock originally because three different people told me that after reading it, there was no way they could imagine staying in Japan long term. They couldn`t understand how I could deal with it, and were glad they`d be out before things in the book "kicked in". So of course, I was curious what they were talking about.

My opinion is that it`s a book written by one of the long term foreigners who live in Japan for financial reasons and possibly family reasons, but does not like it. Does not want to be here. The type who picks apart aspects of culture and compares them to the "superior" culture they grew up with.

I`m all for presenting the reality of Japan - but this book wraps it in so much negative emotion that it`s impossible to simply see it as culture, instead you`re asked to see it as a flaw. That is unfair, and would be unfair to do to any culture. The only way to "fix" the cultural "flaws" would be to get rid of the culture itself.

The author presents information with a heavy bias. Of course, if you`re already negatively biased against Japan and Japanese culture, this book will likely support you and seem "neutral". It`s not.

While I respect you and your opinions, Paul11, things you`ve said in the past about long termers in Japan lead me to believe that you fall into that group.

rina26 08-06-2008 07:40 AM

Ok, now I'm going to have to read both books.

IMO anyone who's mind could be changed over one book/one person's perspective didn't really want to do it to begin with.

Paul11 08-06-2008 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Nyororin (Post 556139)
No. That book was accurate, and was about the real problems in Japan. They were presented realistically, not with a big scoop of the author`s personal dislike of things.

In other words - there is a difference between critiquing problems in social structure (governmental in the case of Dogs and Demons)... And just negatively poking at every aspect of normal Japanese life.
It is indeed VERY different. I`m sure that you would feel different about reading a book talking about the shortcomings of the US government and why they ended up this way than, say, a book looking at every aspect of American life and culture with derision. One of those books points out a problem which can potentially be solved. The other points out something(everything?) the author found irritating, and bashes them. In the process the book drags down everyone else who reads it.

I read Culture Shock originally because three different people told me that after reading it, there was no way they could imagine staying in Japan long term. They couldn`t understand how I could deal with it, and were glad they`d be out before things in the book "kicked in". So of course, I was curious what they were talking about.

My opinion is that it`s a book written by one of the long term foreigners who live in Japan for financial reasons and possibly family reasons, but does not like it. Does not want to be here. The type who picks apart aspects of culture and compares them to the "superior" culture they grew up with.

I`m all for presenting the reality of Japan - but this book wraps it in so much negative emotion that it`s impossible to simply see it as culture, instead you`re asked to see it as a flaw. That is unfair, and would be unfair to do to any culture. The only way to "fix" the cultural "flaws" would be to get rid of the culture itself.

The author presents information with a heavy bias. Of course, if you`re already negatively biased against Japan and Japanese culture, this book will likely support you and seem "neutral". It`s not.

While I respect you and your opinions, Paul11, things you`ve said in the past about long termers in Japan lead me to believe that you fall into that group.

Not biased. I have too much time, education and personal things invested in Japan to be biased against Japan. I don't remember all the negative things the book said about Japan, it was too long ago. But I remember, as someone educated in anthropology and the study of culture, the book really helped me understand the trends a person experiences with culture shock. It helped me recognize when my autonomic cues were expressing stress, what is was and how to deal with it. There's culture shock for any foreigner in Japan and it comes in waves at somewhat regular intervals. That awareness is a huge thing to take away from the book whether one agrees with the authors specific likes/dislikes about Japan.

Nyororin 08-06-2008 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul11 (Post 556143)
I don't remember all the negative things the book said about Japan, it was too long ago.

Wait - you read the book a long time ago?
I read the "New and Improved" version that was published very recently. (And supposedly by a completely different author)

We MAY be talking about very different books. In the version I read, there was pretty much nothing about culture shock itself. Just a lot of "You`ll find life in Japan shocking because of this! This! And this! Isn`t that all an awful waste of time? The culture we grew up in so much better, so it`s natural you won`t be able to deal with these inferior ideals" sort of feeling.

ETA: If you are talking about the older "version", it may very well be an excellent book on life and culture shock in Japan. (Though supposedly some aspects were outdated which led to it being replaced with the one I did read.) I`ve never read it. If so, I humbly apologize.

Paul11 08-06-2008 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Nyororin (Post 556146)
Wait - you read the book a long time ago?
I read the "New and Improved" version that was published very recently. (And supposedly by a completely different author)

We MAY be talking about very different books. In the version I read, there was pretty much nothing about culture shock itself. Just a lot of "You`ll find life in Japan shocking because of this! This! And this! Isn`t that all an awful waste of time? The culture we grew up in so much better, so it`s natural you won`t be able to deal with these inferior ideals" sort of feeling.

ETA: If you are talking about the older "version", it may very well be an excellent book on life and culture shock in Japan. (Though supposedly some aspects were outdated which led to it being replaced with the one I did read.) I`ve never read it. If so, I humbly apologize.

Maybe! I'll check it out on Amazon.com. the book I read was a series called Culture Shock and had books for various countries. Stand by for more.

Paul11 08-06-2008 08:57 AM

Yeah. Theres a new one by a guy named Bramble. I think the one I red was by Rex Shelley. It has a lot of ettiquite stuff for beginners - which I was when I read it back when half these posters were in diapers. It had a lot of good stuff on the trends I mentioned earlier. I think it's co-written by a Japanese woman.

I say tomato, you say Ramble is a piece of crap, let's call the whole thing off!:D

Nyororin 08-06-2008 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul11 (Post 556159)
Maybe! I'll check it out on Amazon.com. the book I read was a series called Culture Shock and had books for various countries. Stand by for more.

That`s the series I`m talking about too, but it looks like they update their books in the series with new books, by different authors, that just share the title. The contents of the books are supposedly very different, and other than the name they aren`t related.

Nyororin 08-06-2008 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul11 (Post 556165)
I say tomato, you say Ramble is a piece of crap, let's call the whole thing off!:D

Now I want to track down the older version. I do want to find a realistic book that does give an idea of what life actually is like here... I`d like to have something to direct people to.

I feel a little better now knowing that we weren`t talking about the same book. Phew.

Paul11 08-06-2008 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Nyororin (Post 556167)
Now I want to track down the older version. I do want to find a realistic book that does give an idea of what life actually is like here... I`d like to have something to direct people to.

I feel a little better now knowing that we weren`t talking about the same book. Phew.

When I went to Japan I brought the Japan Hand Book, published by Moon Publications, a travel guide company. the book was originally published in 1983, but the writer continually visited Japan and upgraded it. I lost my copy and it's out of print. I'm considering getting another used copy anyway.

I've never seen a travel guide like it. this book had every little place to see even way out in the boondocks. Places I visited that arent on the web or in any book. I could plan a day trip or a whol vacation anywhere in Japan from that book. It even had the train times and times of buses and what color bus to take to each place. i'm sure that stuff is out of date now. But, the geography hasn't changed.

It was also full of cultural and historical lessons that were really deep.

If anyone were to go to japan, i would say go to Alibris.com and get a used copy.

It was thick as a brick, but lately I bought the best Japan guide I could think of and it had almost nothing in Kansai other than Kyoto and Osaka. the Japasn Hand Book had even tiny things to see in countryside mura.

Akakage 08-06-2008 08:34 PM

Is this the book you're talking about Paul11?

9780918373700: Japan Handbook by J D Bisignani (Used, New, Out-of-Print) - Alibris

Personally I'm gonna read all of the books you guys mentioned. I'd rather be prepared than get a big surprise that might send me back home. I'll admit that I have a rose colored glasses view of Japan and could use a dose of reality.
But despite what people say, and I have been around several Japan bashers, I can't see myself hating the place. In the end there's only way to find out and that's by experiencing it myself.

Nyororin 08-06-2008 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Akakage (Post 556584)
Personally I'm gonna read all of the books you guys mentioned.

If you`re going to read the one I mentioned, do put forth the effort to track down the edition Paul11 read. The one I read had needless negativity and isn`t worth the time.

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But despite what people say, and I have been around several Japan bashers, I can't see myself hating the place. In the end there's only way to find out and that's by experiencing it myself.
In my opinion - it isn`t people discouraging you from going to Japan or convincing you to hate the place. It`s the fact that the negative opinions you read will come back to bite you when you (if, actually, as I never personally experienced any) feel homesick. If you`re feeling down to begin with, it doesn`t take much to make your surroundings look like a hell that is working against you. I`d say a pretty fair chunk of foreigners in Japan end up feeling that way - and the more contact they have with others who feel that way (directly or through books/blogs/etc), the worse things are. I`ve seen someone who was pretty much happy in Japan deteriorate to paranoid racist over a month or so when those around him kept telling him that he was being discriminated against, all those people were talking about him, etc etc. He was able to hunt down tons of "supporting evidence" via books and blogs by other bitter foreigners. He went home early, disgusted with the country.

Having a very good language ability knocks a lot of this out of the water, but most people never get that far. It`s easier to discount bashing when you`re not there and aren`t having a bad day... Then it`s much much easier to blame Japan, Japanese people, and Japanese culture for your own shortcomings and failures. It doesn`t help that a lot of people come to Japan to escape the lives they made - and repeat the same mistakes here.

I say it`s better to have a good history book and an open mind than read someone else`s feelings about something you should experience first hand. The impressions you read will color your own impressions, no matter how little credit you give them at the time.

Paul11 08-10-2008 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Akakage (Post 556584)
Is this the book you're talking about Paul11?

9780918373700: Japan Handbook by J D Bisignani (Used, New, Out-of-Print) - Alibris

Personally I'm gonna read all of the books you guys mentioned. I'd rather be prepared than get a big surprise that might send me back home. I'll admit that I have a rose colored glasses view of Japan and could use a dose of reality.
But despite what people say, and I have been around several Japan bashers, I can't see myself hating the place. In the end there's only way to find out and that's by experiencing it myself.

Yeah, that's the book. It's a travel guide, but full of good stuff. I'm a realist ands don't mind reading negative stuff because I don't have to believe it. I take everything written about Japan with a grain of salt. After arriving I realized mnost books were full of crap.

Even the ones positive about Japan seemed to be written by those who romanticized thier experience and have no cuktural education to back-up thire observations. the stuff written for business were written by guys who spent a super limited amount of time in Japan.

I commented on this when I arrived to a veteran ex-pat. He said, "Too many people write books." I've used that line for years.

Read everything. Take it all with a grain of salt. (and get the older version of culture shock.)


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