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KUNIO 12-07-2008 12:10 AM

Living in Japan
 
Hello JF members,

To anyone who lives in Japan or has lived there, I was wondering, is life in Japan good? I mean, of course it is good, as long as I live in a home I am happy, but is it fun? There are so many jerks and bullies in America, seems like every corner I turn there are people judging me. I heard Japan was "nice", and everyone helps each other out and stuff. That sounds like the community I want to live in. Also, I love the language and culture. Unagi is really good, and so is Sushi. Also I want to be a computer programmer, and I heard technology was big over there. Is it easy to get a job when you are young? Also, is it easy to move there, because I know nothing about moving country to country, also do you need a passport or whatever (don't mind my stupidity...)? Thank you very much.

SHAD0W 12-07-2008 12:18 AM

moving to japan wont be the easy way out of your girl problem..

KUNIO 12-07-2008 12:21 AM

That is not why I am moving... it is all humans, not just women. And I just want a community like Japan if it is like I read and heard it was.

Keaton421 12-07-2008 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SHAD0W (Post 639829)
moving to japan wont be the easy way out of your girl problem..

Truth. Solve your problems with people instead of running from them

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I heard Japan was "nice", and everyone helps each other out and stuff.
Where did you hear that? That's true in isolated instances across the world, but to say an entire country is like that is completely foolish.

If you don't like being judged, don't move to Japan. Bullying pretty much ends after high school. Though if I remember high school it felt like it was the be all and end all of life.

Unagi and Sushi are not criteria for living in a country, especially when you've never visited and seem too young to move out of your parents' house. No offense.

It's not easy to move there, and you will need a passport.

SHAD0W 12-07-2008 12:23 AM

Just dont go there thinking its some sort of sparkling magic land.. every country has its pros and cons.

KUNIO 12-07-2008 12:26 AM

I know that, it's just I want a nice community to live in. I am not running, I am not even planning on moving until I turn 18 anyways. And I was just saying I like the food I have tried, not I deserve to live there because of that food.

Keaton421 12-07-2008 12:28 AM

It sounds like running. You, and only you, can make a nice community for yourself by commanding the respect of others. Some countries are worse than others, but Japan isn't the shangri-la for hapless nerds and the technologically keen - but it sure looks like it.

You won't be moving there unless you have a college degree.

I realize you're young and sensitive, but moving to Japan because you like it is not sensible right now. Do well in college and toughen yourself up into a man in the process, and take an exchange trip when you can - see if you actually like the place first!

KUNIO 12-07-2008 12:33 AM

I will go to college, and I will toughen myself. I can not command people though, I don't know how.

Keaton421 12-07-2008 12:38 AM

What's going on in you is more than can be solved in a thread or even two.

My secret? Worked hard, found values that made me a better person, joined the Army, and realized just how stupid and vacuous the majority of people are. That's a recipe for self-esteem.

Even if you've got nothing to be proud of, you can walk and talk confidently. People will begin to wonder what you've got that makes you hold your head high. Be confident, but not cocky. And never accept disrespect from anyone - but learn to take criticism, it'll improve you.

More than likely there are good parts about yourself that you don't notice or are afraid to recognize and talk about. The fact that there are deeper things on your mind than pocky and Twilight proves, at least to me, that you're a more worthwhile person than 80% of this forum.

EDIT: I rarely, if ever, say this. But if you find out that living in Japan is your dream, then I wish you good luck

KUNIO 12-07-2008 12:43 AM

Thank you, your words are kind and have deep meaning to me. I have been contemplating on joining the Army for quite some time... and you motivated me to think about it further. Also, your advice is meaningful, I actually feel it somehow... like, I don't know. Everyone so far I have talked to has inspired me, you giving me the most inspiration.

Keaton421 12-07-2008 12:47 AM

Politics aside, the military is one of the few ways real men are still made in this day and age. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. It may not be everyone's path, but if it is, more power to you and feel free to PM me about that issue or anything else you've got. I was once in your shoes more or less, but sorry for derailing your thread. I'm gonna go watch the Last Samurai :D

KUNIO 12-07-2008 12:51 AM

Enjoy your movie :) I will defenitaly be contacting you, thank you, truly.

Nyororin 12-07-2008 03:06 AM

Only run from problems which cannot be solved or would not change with any effort you make.

Can you say that about your problems? I doubt it - and this is coming from someone who did do the whole drop and run thing at 17.

Self esteem was never my issue (I`m flat out arrogant, as I`ve been told far too many times) - so I can`t give you a huge amount of advice there... But self esteem is something you make yourself. The day you realize that you are above a great proportion of the population things will look a bit brighter.

I usually never bother myself with reading the vapid threads in the relationship section, but took a look at yours just to see what SHAD0W was talking about... And it doesn`t sound like you have inhibited emotions at all. You just aren`t good at expressing them. If you`ve had a professional diagnosis, that`s one thing, but if you honestly had inhibited emotions things would be a bit different.

Your world is very small at this point, and I think that is the sole problem. I won`t say silly things like "toughen up" because that doesn`t help in the short term, nor is it always the best path for a person. Just realize that the world is a very very large place, and that there is a very wide variety of people and lifestyles. Make some effort in some direction, toward something. That`s all it takes. Set some kind of goal and work toward it. Something that matters to you more than the immediate surroundings. In the end, the more you suffer in the short term, the greater the joy you`ll feel when you do obtain some level of happiness.

Oh, and try to meet up with some nerdy girls. They exist, and will likely appreciate you much more for who you already are - not what you`ve changed to in order to get their favor.

KUNIO 12-07-2008 09:17 AM

Thank you Nyororin, and I have been professionally tested when I was younger and it was determined that was the case. I don't remember the testing, but I can recall the event. Your advice is meaningful as well, and I did read your life story earlier in another thread, so I think we can somewhat relate to each other.

jasonbvr 12-08-2008 10:47 AM

Come on over. Japanese people never judge foreigners who live here.

AAres 12-08-2008 02:07 PM

I hate these kind of threads where a person asks about Japan and it ends with trying to make the OP another person.

Everyone here know that she/he will lose her/his "girl" problems after high school,
and lets just tell her that you need a degree to go to Japan and I do not know if it is possible to get an agree before the age of 18.

And going into the army only works for the persons who allready have big problems, the other 99% will understand how good it is outside the army,
and will continue his life.

I also think it is fun to see how ppl that wants to go to Japan for some reason, whatever reason, and get allmost shot.

While the other 99% that allready is in Japan did not want to go there in the first place, but they are Gods.

Im also 200% sure that if I had made an thread about living in US, (even if it would not fit in this forum) I would not have go LIVE there before it is good.
Its like ppl who allready lives in Japan dont want other ppl to come over since they want to be spesial, and the other 99% that is from US don't want them to think Japan is better then US.

Nothing more to say. I have never been in Japan, so can not say much about it.
(Im ready to get flamed)

bELyVIS 12-08-2008 02:59 PM

"There are so many jerks and bullies in America, seems like every corner I turn there are people judging me. I heard Japan was "nice", and everyone helps each other out and stuff. That sounds like the community I want to live in. "

In Japan you will be judged because you are a foreigner. And if you want to see jerks and bullies just work for a traditional Japanese company. I got my first real taste of discrimination working there.
Life is difficult anywhere nowadays. As you get more mature, you will see that there is good and bad everywhere.

biginjapan 12-09-2008 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by AAres (Post 640906)
I hate these kind of threads where a person asks about Japan and it ends with trying to make the OP another person.

Everyone here know that she/he will lose her/his "girl" problems after high school,
and lets just tell her that you need a degree to go to Japan and I do not know if it is possible to get an agree before the age of 18.

And going into the army only works for the persons who allready have big problems, the other 99% will understand how good it is outside the army,
and will continue his life.

I also think it is fun to see how ppl that wants to go to Japan for some reason, whatever reason, and get allmost shot.

While the other 99% that allready is in Japan did not want to go there in the first place, but they are Gods.

Im also 200% sure that if I had made an thread about living in US, (even if it would not fit in this forum) I would not have go LIVE there before it is good.
Its like ppl who allready lives in Japan dont want other ppl to come over since they want to be spesial, and the other 99% that is from US don't want them to think Japan is better then US.

Nothing more to say. I have never been in Japan, so can not say much about it.
(Im ready to get flamed)

I have no idea what you just said.

Hatredcopter 12-09-2008 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by AAres (Post 640906)
I also think it is fun to see how ppl that wants to go to Japan for some reason, whatever reason, and get allmost shot.

What the HECK are you talking about?

You might be about to get flamed, but not because people disagree with you, but because they can't understand anything you're trying to convey here.

MMM 12-09-2008 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by KUNIO (Post 639820)
Hello JF members,

To anyone who lives in Japan or has lived there, I was wondering, is life in Japan good?

My life in Japan was great, but I know people who had horrible experiences. In general this was due to the individual's expectations and flexibility. I loved the personality of the high school I worked at, despite the fact the students weren't that motivated. I stayed three years, for as long as my contract allowed. The young woman who replaced me hated the school, and I don't think she finished a single year.

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Originally Posted by KUNIO (Post 639820)
I mean, of course it is good, as long as I live in a home I am happy, but is it fun? There are so many jerks and bullies in America, seems like every corner I turn there are people judging me.

There are just as many bullies and jerks in Japan, if that's what you are wondering.

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Originally Posted by KUNIO (Post 639820)
I heard Japan was "nice", and everyone helps each other out and stuff. That sounds like the community I want to live in. Also, I love the language and culture. Unagi is really good, and so is Sushi. Also I want to be a computer programmer, and I heard technology was big over there. Is it easy to get a job when you are young? Also, is it easy to move there, because I know nothing about moving country to country, also do you need a passport or whatever (don't mind my stupidity...)? Thank you very much.

There are nice people in Japan, but I don't know if that means Japan is "nice".
You need a passport, a college degree, a job and a work visa, and then you will be set.

ChisaChi 12-09-2008 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by AAres (Post 640906)
I also think it is fun to see how ppl that wants to go to Japan for some reason, whatever reason, and get allmost shot.

This is the most hilarious thing ever XD Sarcasm right? ....right?

Um... anyway, I haven't lived in Japan myself either, but I would think that being shy would make living in a foreign country more difficult than the one you were born in. From what people have told me living somewhere where you don't speak the language and most don't speak yours is a quite an isolating experience, and one that takes a lot of effort and putting yourself out there to overcome. I can imagine it would be very lonely if you're not capable of doing that. Unless you're the type of person who grows well by being forced into sink-or-swim, uncomfortable situations I'd say that moving away is not going to help your self confidence issues.

joeyj 12-09-2008 03:04 AM

Japan is great, but can be tiring. Also, while most people are very friendly, there is a certain smugness to it all... For example, many will smile at you but won't be smiling to you.

But, I'd say the majority of people there were more polite to me than the average American here. But, if you need to go to school or anything like that, I'd take care of all that first. I made the mistake of going there without any education and I had a rough time for the last half year I was there.


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