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Colin 01-24-2009 01:29 AM

The only "big" song my Monkey Majik was the song they did with M-FLO.

alexlovesrock 01-24-2009 05:14 AM

does anyone have any information on live music venues in Japan- Such as clubs etc? How hard it is to get your own gig or open for another small / medium band?

Most of the revenue stream is live performances anyway. The avex deal discussion is cool, and would be awesome but unlikely (esp for a foreign act) unless u have some live experience and a small fanbase anyway.

MMM 01-24-2009 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by alexlovesrock (Post 668544)
does anyone have any information on live music venues in Japan- Such as clubs etc? How hard it is to get your own gig or open for another small / medium band?

Most of the revenue stream is live performances anyway. The avex deal discussion is cool, and would be awesome but unlikely (esp for a foreign act) unless u have some live experience and a small fanbase anyway.

Many of the smaller clubs are "pay to play"...so bands must sell their own tickets to expect to make any money. If they can't, then they are paying the club back.

Other than that, it's all who you know.

HinataUchiha 01-24-2009 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Yuusuke (Post 668378)
Ulitimate-guitar.com

get an instrument and learn!


i reccomend guitar or bass

THANK YOU! .........now to get an instrument........crap.

noonboy 01-24-2009 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by HinataUchiha (Post 668351)
how do i get instrumental lessons for cheap? My parents won't pay for it, so i'll have to get a job, and i can't get to sites like myspace or youtube because i'm using a school computer and that stuff is blocked. help?



,,,,,,, all you had to do is ask me to unblok thim for you. you know that right. i can do all most any things on computers an if i can not ask chikan ok

Yuusuke 01-24-2009 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by HinataUchiha (Post 668780)
THANK YOU! .........now to get an instrument........crap.


I bought my bass for 80's dollars from a thift store

You should go on Craigslist.com and u may find what u r looking for in ur area for cheap
musiciansfriend.com- great site u'll find what u want
guitarcenter.com pretty much the same as MF
samash.com alittle more expensive but you may find a deal on it

HinataUchiha 01-25-2009 02:23 AM

Ok, geat. um........is bass hard to learn? i can usually pick up stuff pretty quickly and i'm willing to work hard, but i have absolutely no music experience.

Yuusuke 01-26-2009 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by HinataUchiha (Post 668895)
Ok, geat. um........is bass hard to learn? i can usually pick up stuff pretty quickly and i'm willing to work hard, but i have absolutely no music experience.

people think bass is easy because it only has for strings and it's well spaced apart compared to guitar
but it's pretty hard. the key is practice practice practice!

I have a hard time X_X

but metal songs are pretty easy on bass it's just rape of E string pretty much lol.

but bass is rewarding and fun like any other instrument
i reccomend

a good starter bass is a rogue

Buy Rogue LX200B Series II Bass Guitar | 4 String Electric Bass | Musician's Friend

I got one at a thrift store X_X for less
but thats an epic bass get it
all you'll need r new strings and a tuner X_X

SceptileMaster 01-26-2009 02:22 AM

Right I haven't read all the posts but as a fellow musician I can give the following advice especially since I know someone who has had a number one single and have done many classes (I'm on my 3rd year on a music course I'm taking before university) looking at record contracts and so forth.

But basically if you want a career in music then unless you're massive (and that's very unlikely) then a record contract could be one of the worst things you've done. The record companies are evil fiends who don't care how much they screw you over or ruin your lives as long as they make even more money even though they have more than they could ever need. Plus they can screw you around and avoid committing to their contract for many reasons such as them having the best laywers money can buy (and lot's of them) as well as they're ridiculous amounts of money.

In the class we watched a documentary about the music industry and about artists who got signed to major labels and got screwed over by the companies because they couldn't fight against them even though the companies were in breach of contract. They're just too big and have too much power. One example is this woman who wouldn't change things about her music after a couple of albums to keep hipo basically. So even though it was in the contract for the company to do a certain amount of promotion for her albums and gigs they did the opposite. Dropped all promotion didn't arrange any of the gigs promised and all the like. Just dropped her completely and let her smother in the debt the contract puts on you and basically ruined everything for her.

Also with modern technology great sounding records can be made with a decent everyday desktop PC (with a special recording soundcard), a mixer and some good quality mics (oh and a recording program like cubase or protools or the like). Overall this can come to a few grand and can be done in a room in your house. Instead they'll give you a 200 grand advance and send you off to one of their own overpriced studios where there is even a guy in charge of the metronome (drowning more monies anyways) where with all the stuff they stick on recordings now take weeks to finish the album and uses up most of your 200 grand advance. It will sound pretty much no better than the one you did on your own as long as you've had practise producing your stuff. Then any money from album sales you get doesn't go to your band until you paid back the advance. If you sell a decent amount you might just break even.

I'll give an example. Jamiroquai was very popular at first. Platinum selling albums and the like. Didn't start to see any cash what-so-ever until his third album and by that time he was a megastar. He was on the documentary expressing his disgust if I remember correctly.

Doing as much as you can yourself is a very good idea (even though the record companies wont like that because it\'s less money they can screw out of you.

Also everything pretty much that needs to be said on a record contract can be said in a couple of pages. The average record contract now is over 50 pages long meaning those other 48 or more pages are out to get you. Plus from a lot of the contract we read through in class everything is worded so it can mean one thing or exactly the opposite. Meaning you\'re screwed legally.

I\'m not going to go into it much further unless any wants me to continue. But remember don\'t go the record company route for a career in music, record some people and play gigs on the side with your band or something. Start a function band, do some live mixing, session work or teaching. And remember it\'s far harder to get out of a recording deal than to get in one.

HinataUchiha 01-26-2009 06:02 PM

this is all starting to sound expensive, getting the entire equipment myself. but its for the best, and at least i won\'t get screwed over lol
looks like i\'ll have to get a good paying job pronto. thanks for the tips! anything else i should know?


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