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samurai007 03-31-2009 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Nyororin (Post 691343)
And if you don`t live in Japan, you can?
I really do not understand this argument against living in Japan...

I find it somehow strange that you have this set image of all Japanese living spaces as being tiny and with absolutely no space - apparently because that is the type of place you lived.
There are larger apartments. There are larger houses. You CAN have a big house with a big yard. Sure, it would be hard to pull off in the middle of a big city - but I`d like to see someone do the same in any other huge city outside Japan.

I live in Japan, and if I felt the desire, I could buy 100s of manga each month - and have plenty of space to store it all. Thankfully though, I have other hobbies and only a small handful of series I follow.

ETA; If living in Japan isn`t the thing for you - I have absolutely no issue with that. Everyone is different. But I still think it`s a bit unfair to compare the life you had at one point to the life you have now as the circumstances are so incredibly different. If you had made your life here, I somehow doubt you`d be living the same sort of life you had back in JET... Just as I am sure that if I`d made my life in the US things would be significantly different than the lifestlye I had there prior to leaving.

Heh, I collected over 1500 manga during my 2 years in Japan (since increased to over 1600 thanks to visiting Kinokuniya in SF). While I was living there, they filled my bookcases, my closet floors, and were stacked along the walls of my tiny, 1 room apartment. They filled 25 of the 28 boxes I shipped home by sea mail.

I don't know for sure, but I'd guess it's probably one of the better private collections of Japanese language manga in the US. MMM, how many do you have?

MMM 03-31-2009 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nyororin (Post 691343)
And if you don`t live in Japan, you can?
I really do not understand this argument against living in Japan...

I find it somehow strange that you have this set image of all Japanese living spaces as being tiny and with absolutely no space - apparently because that is the type of place you lived.
There are larger apartments. There are larger houses. You CAN have a big house with a big yard. Sure, it would be hard to pull off in the middle of a big city - but I`d like to see someone do the same in any other huge city outside Japan.

I live in Japan, and if I felt the desire, I could buy 100s of manga each month - and have plenty of space to store it all. Thankfully though, I have other hobbies and only a small handful of series I follow.

ETA; If living in Japan isn`t the thing for you - I have absolutely no issue with that. Everyone is different. But I still think it`s a bit unfair to compare the life you had at one point to the life you have now as the circumstances are so incredibly different. If you had made your life here, I somehow doubt you`d be living the same sort of life you had back in JET... Just as I am sure that if I`d made my life in the US things would be significantly different than the lifestlye I had there prior to leaving.

Well, when I lived in Japan I did not have the space to buy all the things I wanted because I lived in an urban one-room apartment. I went manga shopping with a single expat I know, and bought some things and he said the same thing. "I wish I had a place to put it all." Again, he is is a single guy living in a smallish apartment.

My point wasn't the space, so much, as what I look to do as a visitor (tends to be lots of shopping) and what I did to fill my time as a resident are pretty different.

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Originally Posted by samurai007 (Post 691384)
Heh, I collected over 1500 manga during my 2 years in Japan (since increased to over 1600 thanks to visiting Kinokuniya in SF). While I was living there, they filled my bookcases, my closet floors, and were stacked along the walls of my tiny, 1 room apartment. They filled 25 of the 28 boxes I shipped home by sea mail.

I don't know for sure, but I'd guess it's probably one of the better private collections of Japanese language manga in the US. MMM, how many do you have?

Certainly not that many...That is pretty impressive. You probably had a hefty bill sending things home like I did.

samurai007 04-01-2009 02:01 AM

Yeah, it was about $850 to ship those 28 boxes 10 years ago. That included pick-up at my apartment in Japan, but we had to rent a van and pick them up at the dock in the US.

But there was no way I was leaving my collection in Japan, and I have many, many books that have never, and will never be translated to English and released here. Lots of great memories scavenging bookstores from one end of Japan to the other.

The other thing I collected was small statues. Nio, Buddhas, the 7 Lucky Gods, tengu, oni, geishas, etc. I'd buy one when I visited an important new location for the 1st time, to remember it by (assuming I found a shop selling little statues nearby, and I usually did).

MMM 04-01-2009 04:20 AM

I think I sent 12 2x3.5 foot boxes and it was about 100 dollars a box...but that was door to door service. A lot were books, but I wasn't into manga that much then. I brought back a LOT of video tapes, though. I wish DVD technology existed back then. Downtown were basically my Kansai-ben sensei, and I taped all their shows every week.

tifa 04-01-2009 07:41 AM

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-but that pitiful, its not cool, its not funny its pitiful, the highest rate of suicides, now i know this? noooo i never dreamed of a fatasy country but this is no different than iraq its more inward instead of outward pitiful, why? self esteem so low? so shy? sooo pretenstive ohhh i like you.... secretly "you annoy me" to me, with out the smarts, or the 7day workers japan would be a shallow, morbid place with zombies who know only work and work, but!!! i still wanna visit do not come complaining, if you do not!! i re-type do not!! live in japan, a native japanese why? ITS NOT YOUR CONTRY dont defend a place you never been ok? its stupid its like politic discussing the size of bread before its baked!

Nyororin 04-01-2009 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by tifa (Post 691939)
-but that pitiful, its not cool, its not funny its pitiful, the highest rate of suicides, now i know this? noooo i never dreamed of a fatasy country but this is no different than iraq its more inward instead of outward pitiful, why? self esteem so low? so shy? sooo pretenstive ohhh i like you.... secretly "you annoy me" to me, with out the smarts, or the 7day workers japan would be a shallow, morbid place with zombies who know only work and work, but!!! i still wanna visit do not come complaining, if you do not!! i re-type do not!! live in japan, a native japanese why? ITS NOT YOUR CONTRY dont defend a place you never been ok? its stupid its like politic discussing the size of bread before its baked!

I`m sorry, but I have absolutely no idea what you are trying to say here.

Are you trying to say that I/others shouldn`t defend Japan because we`re not native Japanese? Or that only those who are native Japanese have the right to criticize the country?

I`m sorry, but your message is truly a mystery - wrapped in a thick mist of poor composition.

SSJup81 04-01-2009 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Nyororin (Post 691989)
I`m sorry, but I have absolutely no idea what you are trying to say here.

Are you trying to say that I/others shouldn`t defend Japan because we`re not native Japanese? Or that only those who are native Japanese have the right to criticize the country?

I`m sorry, but your message is truly a mystery - wrapped in a thick mist of poor composition.

I could be wrong, but to my understanding, the poster is pretty much saying one shouldn't complain or criticize the country if one has never lived there nor should one defend it with a blind love, if one has never actually lived there.

Nyororin 04-01-2009 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SSJup81 (Post 691991)
I could be wrong, but to my understanding, the poster is pretty much saying one shouldn't complain or criticize the country if one has never lived there nor should one defend it with a blind love, if one has never actually lived there.

I sort of guessed that, but what about the first half of the message?

Either way, I don`t see a whole lot of criticism or defense coming from those who do not or have not lived in Japan in this topic.

tifa 04-01-2009 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SSJup81 (Post 691991)
I could be wrong, but to my understanding, the poster is pretty much saying one shouldn't complain or criticize the country if one has never lived there nor should one defend it with a blind love, if one has never actually lived there.

THANK YOU!! its well known that people who have no idea r live the life seen r personally know anything! will defend its useless but i wasnt being mean i was stating facts, the shyness, the sucide level is the highest in the world seriously. do not come again telling me i have no right to judge r criticize any of this to bad a stranger has the right to say anything before he mets you personally

Koir 04-01-2009 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by tifa (Post 692075)
THANK YOU!! its well known that people who have no idea r live the life seen r personally know anything! will defend its useless but i wasnt being mean i was stating facts, the shyness, the sucide level is the highest in the world seriously. do not come again telling me i have no right to judge r criticize any of this to bad a stranger has the right to say anything before he mets you personally

Your posts wouldn't need to be interpreted by others simply to be understood if you employed proper sentence structure and composition rules. This seems to be an area in which you need improvement, evidenced by the quoted post.


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