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burkhartdesu 02-05-2009 07:17 PM

Japan and Sexuality
 
So I have mixed ideas on how Japanese perceive sex. In Tokyo It wasn't uncommon to see porno-billboards, one I saw had pregnant women posing nude- while little kids would walk by totally oblivious. This may be an extreme example, but how do Japanese think of sex?

What experiences, if any, has anyone else had?

I'll be moving there one day with my fiancee, and sex is kind of an important part of society-- as much as people like to consider it taboo.

tokyo88 02-05-2009 07:54 PM

Firas
 
haha Japanese beleave of the sexual education for children for them sexuality is natural and the children should discover it in an early age
annnnnd you can see the Hontai i mean the porno anims

do you think it is for childrens ?

alanX 02-05-2009 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by tokyo88 (Post 672668)
haha Japanese beleave of the sexual education for children for them sexuality is natural and the children should discover it in an early age
annnnnd you can see the Hontai i mean the porno anims

do you think it is for childrens ?

You mean hentai? lol

I think Japan's view on sex is much more mature than that of America. They don't really think it is such a big deal, whereas Americans make such a fuss over what is simply the natural form of reproduction. That's how Japanese see it.

And that's how America SHOULD see it.

MMM 02-05-2009 09:13 PM

I have never seen porn on a billboard, but yes, it is much more accessible than it is in the US.

Your question is a little vague. I think each person has their own perception, and are you talking about sex or pornography or fidelity or something else?

Gwen_Goth 02-05-2009 09:15 PM

*edited*

Japan has long had a more mature view on sex; it is seen as something natural for everyone to do; the only taboo has come from the American occupation; and how they have conformed to western society and views in recent (recent being the last 200 years or so) years.

I don't know how Japan does it's sex education, but Hentai is NOT a part of it; Hentai, Ecchi and the likes are really adult only material; and a small demographic at that.

gah; MMM you got here fisrt :p

burkhartdesu 02-05-2009 09:16 PM

Well sex is a pretty general topic, and I meant just that: sex. All aspects of it!

But to be more specific, how hard is it to get away with the act in a small apartment?

Love hotels seem a little inpersonal, lol

spicytuna 02-05-2009 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by burkhartdesu (Post 672658)
So I have mixed ideas on how Japanese perceive sex. In Tokyo It wasn't uncommon to see porno-billboards, one I saw had pregnant women posing nude- while little kids would walk by totally oblivious. This may be an extreme example, but how do Japanese think of sex?

What experiences, if any, has anyone else had?

I'll be moving there one day with my fiancee, and sex is kind of an important part of society-- as much as people like to consider it taboo.

They're definitely open minded for sure.

Over here, men and women find it embarrassing to be seen walking into an adult video or novelty shop while in Japan, you can see groups of men walk around in red light districts laughing, talking and having a blast as they blow their salaries away.

I was really surprised when my friend took me to a popular brothel area in the Tobita-shinchi area of Osaka. There were hundreds of girls on display and the area was so packed with pedestrians that it was like Shibuya on a weekend afternoon. Guys wandering around in their work uniforms, salary men who were anxiously waiting outside for their colleagues "activity report", etc.

Another thing which surprised me was the information booths at the red light districts. A place which would recommend an establishment/girl based on your budget, fetish, etc. How hilarious is that?!

Damn! I could go on and on but I'll stop before I wear out my keyboard.

burkhartdesu 02-05-2009 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by spicytuna (Post 672703)
They're definitely open minded for sure.

Another thing which surprised me was the information booths at the red light districts. A place which would recommend an establishment/girl based on your budget, fetish, etc. How hilarious is that?!

Damn! I could go on and on but I'll stop before I wear out my keyboard.

Ahaha, that's exactly the type of crap I wanted to hear.

Gwen_Goth 02-05-2009 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by burkhartdesu (Post 672702)
Love hotels seem a little inpersonal, lol

I'd have said quite the opposite; it allows couples to be intimate and alone for a period of time; there's not much else they can do; its not unusual for young adults to live at home with parents until they marry; so if you're dating there really isn't much other choice; Love hotels provide a safe space and even provide condoms and the like. you can even get theme rooms :D :p

burkhartdesu 02-05-2009 09:28 PM

Well, love hotels are definitely an option. :p

Who wouldn't want to get intimate in a place like this...



And that isn't sarcasm :smokingbear:

MMM 02-05-2009 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by burkhartdesu (Post 672702)
Well sex is a pretty general topic, and I meant just that: sex. All aspects of it!

But to be more specific, how hard is it to get away with the act in a small apartment?

Love hotels seem a little inpersonal, lol

Love hotels exist because most young people don't live alone. I am not sure how "personal" you want your hotel to be, but they serve a purpose and are surely unique.

spicytuna 02-05-2009 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by burkhartdesu (Post 672707)
Ahaha, that's exactly the type of crap I wanted to hear.

They say that the sex industry in Japan is around 2.5 trillion yen a year. That's around double the amount of Canada's entire defense budget! :D

It's no surprise though. I mean, when you get escort services spamming your cell phone, you know that it's a huge industry.

burkhartdesu 02-05-2009 09:53 PM

What's the legality regarding escorts? :glasses:

MMM 02-05-2009 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by burkhartdesu (Post 672728)
What's the legality regarding escorts? :glasses:

Paying for sex is illegal. However, there are loopholes that are often used, like calling it a "massage".

spicytuna 02-05-2009 09:59 PM

I'll send you a PM.

There are some young users here so I don't want to take this thread into the wrong direction. :)

BratGaki 02-05-2009 10:07 PM

It's more mature and socially acceptabe than in America. Kids learn sex education and safe-sex methods early on. I mean, look a this


But with all of that aside, condoms are usual practice within married couples. Birth control isn't so. It was legalized in 1999 and still get a lot of negative press from doctors. One theory is that the doctors want to keep the abortion business strong so they discourage the pill. Japan has a 35% rate of abortion.

water 02-05-2009 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BratGaki (Post 672736)
It's more mature and socially acceptabe than in America. Kids learn sex education and safe-sex methods early on. I mean, look a this


But with all of that aside, condoms are usual practice within married couples. Birth control isn't so. It was legalized in 1999 and still get a lot of negative press from doctors. One theory is that the doctors want to keep the abortion business strong so they discourage the pill. Japan has a 35% rate of abortion.


HAHA... I love this picture! you would never see this in the USA.

MMM 02-05-2009 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BratGaki (Post 672736)
It's more mature and socially acceptabe than in America. Kids learn sex education and safe-sex methods early on. I mean, look a this

But with all of that aside, condoms are usual practice within married couples. Birth control isn't so. It was legalized in 1999 and still get a lot of negative press from doctors. One theory is that the doctors want to keep the abortion business strong so they discourage the pill. Japan has a 35% rate of abortion.

They have those shops in the US, as well. I am not sure what 35% abortion rate means. Do you mean 35% of women have had abortions, or that 35% of babies are aborted. I can't believe either of those numbers are true, but if they were, that throws the whole sex education and safe-sex statement out the window. And I have never heard of married couples using condoms, either.

water 02-05-2009 10:18 PM

Everyone raves about Amsterdam! They should all go to Japan from the looks of it. I thought that real porn was illegal in Japan @ some point...and that only Hentia was legal. Is that true?

MMM 02-05-2009 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by water (Post 672742)
HAHA... I love this picture! you would never see this in the USA.






MMM 02-05-2009 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by water (Post 672746)
Everyone raves about Amsterdam! They should all go to Japan from the looks of it. I thought that real porn was illegal in Japan @ some point...and that only Hentia was legal. Is that true?


alanX 02-05-2009 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 672730)
Paying for sex is illegal. However, there are loopholes that are often used, like calling it a "massage".

HAHA wow I guess that's where all this rave about the "ASIAN MASSAGE" comes from....

water 02-05-2009 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 672751)

Im just asking, pardon me for being on the other side of the planet... and not knowing. The closest thing i have to japan is Iwajimia asian store and ebay HAHA


Niknaizorai 02-05-2009 11:38 PM

Midaregami, 1901
 
"Camellia, plum,
Once these were white -
I find in peach
Color
That does not blame my sin."

Akiko Yosano, from Midaregami, 1901

"Still yearning,
After the good,
The true, the beautiful?
Oh, my love, this flower in my hand
Is dazzling red!!

Akiko Yosano, Midaregami 1901


"You young men!!
Dont you think about love, want love?
Are you blind to these red lips?"

Akiko Yosano, Midaregami, 1901

Dillweed 02-05-2009 11:38 PM

What's the deal with censorship? You guys probably aren't going to take this question seriously, but I want to know. When I get bored and look at hentai on 4chan, why are pictures of penises and vaginas censored with a little black bar that really doesn't cover hardly any of the genitalia in question?

Nyororin 02-05-2009 11:41 PM

One of the biggest issues with barring foreigners (All those "no foreigners allowed" etc signs) is the mistaken impression of all those soaplands etc.
To put it simply - they`re not for having sex, and penetration is a serious violation of the rules... You penetrate the girl, and it`s rape right then and there. If the shop decides to let it go, they lose their license to operate along with huge fines should the word ever get out.

So they`re all "foreplay". A lot (most?) of the foreign guys who decide to visit these places take them as brothels when they`re really not. The girls aren`t prostitutes, and I`ve even heard of "virgin" girls working in them.

The massage thing isn`t a loophole, really. As long as penetration is not involved it`s perfectly legal.

burkhartdesu 02-06-2009 12:42 AM

Ahaha, speaking of Condomania- I went there in Harajuku! It was hilarious, and I was the only one of my friends willing to go in. :p

spicytuna 02-06-2009 01:03 AM

Actually, I'll give you the low down to settle this once and for all.

It's true that sexual intercourse is illegal in Japan but soaplands are an exception to this rule. They are the only legitimate fuzoku establishment which provides this "service".

Other business such as deri-heru, hote-heru, fashion-heru, este massage, imekura, pinsalo, etc. will get you off in more ways than one and some will even offer you anal sex as an option but "regular intercourse" is theoretically illegal.

Of course I stress the word theoretically because it happens all the time. Much like an escort in North America is theoretically getting paid for her company and nothing else.

Nyororin 02-06-2009 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by spicytuna (Post 672820)
It's true that sexual intercourse is illegal in Japan but soaplands are an exception to this rule. They are the only legitimate fuzoku establishment which provides this "service".

Check the law - vaginal penetration is illegal in soaplands too.

Why do I know this? Because I`ve had to translate for a number of guys who went and had the girl cry rape after they did...

In the end, it`s illegal, and the shop is the one on the line. Of course, that doesn`t stop places from doing it, but it`s not something to be expected or you could get burned badly.

spicytuna 02-06-2009 02:04 AM

Soaplands are an exception to the law :
Law bends over backward to allow 'fuzoku' | The Japan Times Online

It may be a gray area but its well accepted that they allow vaginal sex.

Mind you, like most Fuzoku services, they're more than likely to deny service to foreigners... or perhaps offer a menu with greater restrictions.

Nyororin 02-06-2009 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by spicytuna (Post 672841)
Soaplands are an exception to the law :
Law bends over backward to allow 'fuzoku' | The Japan Times Online

It may be a gray area but its well accepted that they allow vaginal sex.

Mind you, like most Fuzoku services, they're more than likely to deny service to foreigners... or perhaps offer a menu with greater restrictions.

The law may twist to let them through... But that didn`t help the guys who thought it was flat out prostitution and ended up getting in trouble. :D

Anyway, just be careful, and know very well what you`re doing if you decide to use one of those places.


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