Tsuwabuki you're kind of a freak. it's a little scary. you spent 70k learning how to teach English???? how many years wages is that??

btw, I teach at university, so kinda passed all the singing and dancing ish. but that's not to say that anyone getting off the boat with degrees/bells/whistles won't have to do that ish for a few years.

Noodle. I like you. You seem like one of the only people i've encountered on this forum with a sense of humour. you're from Paris. You down with Ed Banger/Institubes/Clark Magazine/Arcade Mode??? You live in Algiers??? You ever been to Marseille??? THat place has a special place in my heart.

You're being very disrespectful. If Tsuwabuki wanted to learn to teach English as a Second Language, which is useful no matter where you are, then that's his business. That aside, he probably have other teaching specialties, like most teachers, but ESL is his calling. No need to be insulting towards him. I commend anyone who works hard towards one's calling, regardless of the career. He's obviously fulfilled with what he does.

At least if he goes back to his home country, he'll have the credentials to just jump right in.

The prosecution rests.

First, thank you SSJup81. Indeed, I can go back to America and teach normal native level junior high school or high school English. In fact, when I was in Korea teaching ESL, I was in negotiations with both Japanese schools/companies and Texas municipal school districts. I went ahead and went to Japan, and I do not regret it. That doesn't mean I can't teach elsewhere, or as I have in the past, worked as a reporter, in a marketing/PR firm, or in politics. There is much that an English degree, really a degree that might as well be considered communications, can do for you.

I started my teaching component before I settled on English, that's one of the reasons I spent $70K. I thought I wanted to be a music teacher and spent my first two years studying for a music education degree. When I changed to English, a lot of my credits didn't transfer from the music part of the equation, and in order to even graduate in five years, I had to take a lot of classes, including two summers. Those classes cost money.

And it's common knowledge that on average those with college degrees earn millions more than those without over the course of their working life.

The BAs in law are, as far as I can tell, introductory, preparatory, or law enforcement. They are not law degrees in the sense of lawyers. Which is what I think everyone would understand in normal conversation if you say you are pursuing a law degree. And neurologists are doctors. I don't know about the specific masters you refer to, but I personally wouldn't want that person anywhere near my head unless they had gone to general medical school.

"On average" being the key part of that statement.

Which also means that most that try, fail. Most of those that get a degree, succeed.

Your odds are better with the latter than the former.

You're welcome. It kind of struck a nerve since I'm studying to become a teacher. Haven't gotten to the Master's Level yet, just finishing up my Bachelor's.That sounds pretty cool. I sometimes wonder if I should have gone with an English degree as opposed to a Social Science one, with a concentration in Education. I'm interested in Pre-K - 5 instruction. I prefer Kindergarten, 1st, or 2nd, though. I might just go with getting my licensure and practicum stuff for my state for now, and put off getting the Masters until much later.

As for a specific subject, ESL has always interested me, but what really kind of enhanced that, was when I met a middle school girl from Vietnam. She and her mother were new to the US, so they had limited speaking skills. The girl's older brother, who had lived here for a good amount of time, did all of the speaking for them. They were trying to get her enrolled in the middle school I was assisting in last year. I hated the fact that I couldn't help in some way. I wished I'd studied some Vietnamese as opposed to the Japanese. I wonder how she turned out. During the summer, she was supposed to go to the high school in the area, and take ESL classes. I also met the ESL teacher at the school I worked for, and she went on about it being her calling and liked helping them. It was very admirable.Did you take out student loans to pay for those courses, or did you get a little bit of help through grants and scholarships.

doesnt canada have a 6 month working holiday visa?

Yessssss. Lucky canadians. It would be so much easier if we could do that, eh dude?

Notice the "eh" ??? See it????? It's right.........................................................^ there. A little humor to brighten "you'se guyses" day. AH! I'm on a role here. Sheesh.

lol yes i noticed it and yea i know!!!! they also can get the driver license easier in japan cant they?