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hippykiller1 10-28-2009 03:18 PM

New ID cards for foriegn citizens...
 
Contain RFID

YouTube - Arudou Debito on new IC cards for foreigners in Japan

F*** you Japan.

Nyororin 10-28-2009 03:37 PM

ALL new ID cards in Japan contain RFID. Not just for foreigners. For Japanese citizens too.
Foreigner cards are going to include RFID because foreigners will be included in the SAME record system as Japanese (Juki Net) - a step closer to actually being treated the same in terms of registry and paperwork.

This whole mess has me laughing my head off. For years foreigners in Japan have been pushing to be included in the same system, treated the same as Japanese, allowed on the Juminhyo, etc... And when the government makes a move to actually DO this, people freak out because it`s including RFID...

You can`t have your cake and eat it too. You can`t just take the "good" parts of being treated the same legally and get exceptions for the "bad" parts (like RFID).

hippykiller1 10-28-2009 03:42 PM

I'd take a hammer to that shit. I did to my passport.

Nyororin 10-28-2009 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hippykiller1 (Post 780028)
I'd take a hammer to that shit. I did to my passport.

You`re welcome to do that. Just don`t be an armchair activist screaming about the injustice of being singled out as a foreigner when that isn`t the case.
Does the RFID have the potential to be abused and to be used to single out foreigners? Yes. But potential does not indicate intent. It is in all the ID cards, regardless of whether you`re Japanese or a foreigner.

In other words, complaining about RFID in general is fine - not that there is RFID in foreigner cards (while ignoring the fact that it`s in the other cards too.)

hippykiller1 10-28-2009 05:14 PM

They put RFID in everything. They put it in credit/debt cards. Yeah, I smashed that too.

I'm just not a fan of RFID, like you said, doesn't mean something can happen. But in all, it seems to Orwellian.

smbx33 10-28-2009 05:21 PM

To be honest, I dont mind the fact that you have to have one, I kind of like it. But the fact that you have to have it on you 100% of the time, is a little over the top.

spicytuna 10-28-2009 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hippykiller1 (Post 780028)
I'd take a hammer to that shit.

Just wait until they implant one in the back of your head. It'd make a great Youtube video. ;)

MMM 10-28-2009 08:52 PM

As long as you aren't doing anything criminal, what is the fuss?

AsianAtHeart 10-28-2009 09:10 PM

Unless it's actually going into your body, I don't really see a problem with the actual chip. The privacy breach is the only thing that bugs me.

MMM 10-28-2009 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianAtHeart (Post 780113)
Unless it's actually going into your body, I don't really see a problem with the actual chip. The privacy breach is the only thing that bugs me.

What's the privacy breach?


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