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Nyororin 06-15-2011 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by RealJames (Post 868164)
and if you want to get married at 16 or 18 you're in serious need of medical help

Really?

What is wrong with wanting to commit at a young age?
I can see taking issue with 16 - that is a bit too young - but I wouldn`t see a problem with a serious individual wanting to get married at 18.

RealJames 06-15-2011 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Nyororin (Post 868167)
Really?

What is wrong with wanting to commit at a young age?
I can see taking issue with 16 - that is a bit too young - but I wouldn`t see a problem with a serious individual wanting to get married at 18.

To put it simply, I don't believe that 18 year olds have experienced or developed enough to make any commitment of that magnitude, even the most "serious" of them.

I've met people who were married that young, either forcefully through a pregnancy, or through intoxicating puppy-love, and I can honestly say my impression was that both of them wish they'd waited.

It's just my personal opinion though :)

Nyororin 06-15-2011 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by RealJames (Post 868176)
To put it simply, I don't believe that 18 year olds have experienced or developed enough to make any commitment of that magnitude, even the most "serious" of them.

I've met people who were married that young, either forcefully through a pregnancy, or through intoxicating puppy-love, and I can honestly say my impression was that both of them wish they'd waited.

It's just my personal opinion though :)

I would say that it really depends on the person. The great majority probably would be better off not making a commitment that early, but it is a bit of a stretch to imply that everyone who might want to get married at that age is insane.

Disclaimer; Got engaged at 19, married at 20, and have been happily married for 10 years now. Not once regretted it.

MMM 06-15-2011 05:59 AM

Statistically, I have to agree with Real James. We often talk about how the divorce rate in the US is 50%, but without going and looking up all the numbers again, you can see that the 50% rate is really misleading when you look at age and education factors. For people that get married 18 or younger, the divorce rate is like 75%, and that is WITH the understanding that a good % of those are religious types that don't believe in divorce (so the % might be higher if everyone believed in divorce). At 21 or younger the numbers are better, like 60% divorce rate. If I remember correctly the biggest jump came at people who get married with a high school education, and those that marry with a college education. There was a double digit reduction in divorce rates (20s or 30s) when both parties are college educated. It is probably safe to assume college graduates are over the age of 22, as well.

Of course there are wonderful stories of success despite the odds, but odds-wise, I wouldn't encourage anyone to get married under the age of 24.

Nyororin 06-15-2011 09:51 AM

I definitely wouldn`t encourage anyone to get married so young, but don`t think that anyone having an interest in commitment at 18 is "in serious need of mental help". That is the bit I took issue with. Wanting to get married, even when you`re young, isn`t quite a sign of mental illness.
I can`t say that I am a fan of the common thinking that commitment = something horrible.

RealJames 06-15-2011 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Nyororin (Post 868217)
I definitely wouldn`t encourage anyone to get married so young, but don`t think that anyone having an interest in commitment at 18 is "in serious need of mental help". That is the bit I took issue with. Wanting to get married, even when you`re young, isn`t quite a sign of mental illness.
I can`t say that I am a fan of the common thinking that commitment = something horrible.

My Disclaimer; I was engaged at 19, married at 20, and divorced at 24 lol
I feel that you were lucky Nyororin, and clearly I wasn't.
I feel that the reasons mine didn't work would be virtually non-existent were I to get married again now at a later age.

I feel that what you did was taking a risk.
Taking a risk isn't bad, but taking a risk with something so serious, is what I was referring to as being in need of medical help.

I'm glad your marriage is happy and perhaps it's easy for you to say it was worth it to take the risk seeing how it worked out.
I'm really happy that there were no children in my marriage when things went south.

I may be jaded by my experience, and you may be seeing it from a nicer perspective, I'm not sure where the truth lies. I've been trying to use "I feel" a lot since I have no clue lol.

In my opinion, people change a lot before the age of 30, and even more before 25 and infinitely more before 20, and are entirely different humans before 16.
Promising to stay with another person who's changing just as much as you are is like buying a house without looking at it or choosing your career by drawing cards out of a hat, in my opinion.
I really do feel you got lucky.

godwine 06-15-2011 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RealJames (Post 868240)
In my opinion, people change a lot before the age of 30, and even more before 25 and infinitely more before 20, and are entirely different humans before 16.
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Strongly agree to this.. as you've said previously, I am not even looking at how mature people can be at a young age, there are so much more to experience, it will suck to regret such a life changing decision.

Most, if not all of the people I knew who got married before 22 are already divorced..

BobbyCooper 06-15-2011 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RealJames (Post 868240)
My Disclaimer; I was engaged at 19, married at 20, and divorced at 24 lol
I feel that you were lucky Nyororin, and clearly I wasn't.
I feel that the reasons mine didn't work would be virtually non-existent were I to get married again now at a later age.

I feel that what you did was taking a risk.
Taking a risk isn't bad, but taking a risk with something so serious, is what I was referring to as being in need of medical help.

I'm glad your marriage is happy and perhaps it's easy for you to say it was worth it to take the risk seeing how it worked out.
I'm really happy that there were no children in my marriage when things went south.

I may be jaded by my experience, and you may be seeing it from a nicer perspective, I'm not sure where the truth lies. I've been trying to use "I feel" a lot since I have no clue lol.

In my opinion, people change a lot before the age of 30, and even more before 25 and infinitely more before 20, and are entirely different humans before 16.
Promising to stay with another person who's changing just as much as you are is like buying a house without looking at it or choosing your career by drawing cards out of a hat, in my opinion.
I really do feel you got lucky.

Totally agree with this!

I also believe that you cannot be in Love with only one person for your entire life. Love weakens up after time and everthing becomes boring and normal.. this time frame depends on every relationship.

The best examples to this rule, are the celebritys from today. People who can choose who they want to date and spend their life with.
Everyone of them gets divorced at one point.. which shows you, that Love isn't forever.
Now you have several options to live with that.. one would be to have an open realtionship for example.

But I do believe that there is one exception out there, which would be to marry a true Asian girl or boy. Then it would depend on you and on you only if you can Love him/her forever.. or if you are the reason for the break up, cause she will not be.

shu 06-15-2011 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BobbyCooper (Post 868257)
Totally agree with this!

I also believe that you cannot be in Love with only one person for your entire life. Love weakens up after time and everthing becomes boring and normal.. this time frame depends on every relationship.

The best examples to this rule, are the celebritys from today. People who can choose who they want to date and spend their life with.
Everyone of them gets divorced at one point.. which shows you, that Love isn't forever.
Now you have several options to live with that.. one would be to have an open realtionship for example.

But I do believe that there is one exception out there, which would be to marry a true Asian girl or boy. Then it would depend on you and on you only if you can Love him/her forever.. or if you are the reason for the break up, cause she will not be.

yes mate asian girls are the best.but i wonder if asian girls would like foreign guys who had like host hair or hair like hyde?

godwine 06-15-2011 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by shu (Post 868259)
yes mate asian girls are the best.but i wonder if asian girls would like foreign guys who had like host hair or hair like hyde?

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Originally Posted by BobbyCooper (Post 868257)
But I do believe that there is one exception out there, which would be to marry a true Asian girl or boy. Then it would depend on you and on you only if you can Love him/her forever.. or if you are the reason for the break up, cause she will not be.

I think you guys are dillusional pal. Race has nothing to do with it.... Not a single race can say that they will not be the reason of a break up or divorce. Its a "relationship" because more than one party is involved... you can't clap with one hand, things don't work out because of issues, issues that both side needed to deal with but fail to... not a signle race can say that they are not the reason for it...

You guys really need to set your expeaction right with Asian, we are no different from any other race that reside on this planet......


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