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RKitagawa 04-28-2009 07:27 PM

Art help. Post your art
 
Hey everyone, I thought it would be cool to have a topic where we can all help each other on our art.
So the idea here is to post any artwork you have done, and we can critique them, do paintovers, give tips, etc...
or just admire them.
everyone is welcome!

guess i'll start off.

here is a quick and simple sketch that i did before posting this. (based on ととろ of course)



gonna use it for my avatar i think.

Ypsilanti 04-29-2009 08:42 AM

awww it looks so cute ^^

k here's mine:
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...z/P4210238.jpg

i'm still an amateur so..be gentle :)

Troo 04-29-2009 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RKitagawa (Post 706042)

Excellent technique, but the composition is lacklustre. The eye is drawn to two places: The expanse of blue top-left, and the critter, mid-right. The problem then is that the critter is also looking at the expanse top-left, where there is nothing. The composition forces your viewer to look right back out of the picture, rather than drawing them in.

A simple solution is to put some little flying beastie in that expanse - a butterfly, bee, or something similar (and small - you don't want it to dominate the picture). Ensure it is flying toward your critter, as that will bounce the viewer's eyes back to him again, creating a loop.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ypsilanti (Post 706650)

Focus is excellent. The image is slightly overexposed - presumably you've used spot metering, but even area metering can ignore distant background. This needed to be taken down by -1, but while learning I reccommend using exposure bracketing if your camera has it.

This particular shot would also work far better vertically. Rotate it right and see what I mean. It seems unnatural for things which should be looking up to actually be facing left.

Keep it up! You've mastered one of the harder things, which is getting your subject in focus :)

Ypsilanti 04-29-2009 08:07 PM

many many thx ^^
should i upload some more?

RKitagawa 04-29-2009 10:11 PM

Hey Ypsilanti
thanks for replying :)
i really like your picture, like Troo said, your focus is spot on.
the main problem I had with it is the actual flowers themselves.
all that white stuff on the leaves isnt very attractive in my opinion... if thats what you were trying to capture though i would suggest a different angle which really shows the dirt on the leaves.

I photoshopped your image a bit to show some things you could have done.


basic things like, color correction, playing with the curves etc... really help.
also i removed some of the dirt on the leaves. I might have pushed the color a little too far thoughh... oops.

anyways, good job, please post as many pictures as u'd like! :)

RKitagawa 04-29-2009 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Troo (Post 706654)
Excellent technique, but the composition is lacklustre. The eye is drawn to two places: The expanse of blue top-left, and the critter, mid-right. The problem then is that the critter is also looking at the expanse top-left, where there is nothing. The composition forces your viewer to look right back out of the picture, rather than drawing them in.

A simple solution is to put some little flying beastie in that expanse - a butterfly, bee, or something similar (and small - you don't want it to dominate the picture). Ensure it is flying toward your critter, as that will bounce the viewer's eyes back to him again, creating a loop.

ahah composition isn't my strongest point. :)
so thanks a lot for the comments, I thought my picture seemed kinda... dead and empty, so your comments really help. THANKS, i will post an updated version as soon as its done!

you should post some stuff too! :)

InuAisu 04-29-2009 10:28 PM



all done on photoshop with a tablet... my poor tablet... (T-T) never let a chinchilla near tablet wires...
This one's a pretty random pic...

[img] http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...d2cf729683.jpg [/img]

This one was first drawn on paper, scanned, outlined, and then colored on photoshop.

This pic's one from a doujinshi I hope to make after I finish my current one :)

~(Both pics have been copyrighted)~

MMM 04-29-2009 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RKitagawa (Post 707106)
ahah composition isn't my strongest point. :)
so thanks a lot for the comments, I thought my picture seemed kinda... dead and empty, so your comments really help. THANKS, i will post an updated version as soon as its done!

Actually I don't think there is anything wrong with the composition. You are drawn to the creature's eyes, then to what he is looking at. The fact that we can't see what he is looking at is what makes the composition unnerving, and that is a good thing. Put a butterfly in the space, and I see "creature looking at butterfly"....YAWN!

Leave it as is and the picture tells a story and the viewer can't help but wonder what will happen next.

It's perfect, don't change a thing.

InuAisu 04-29-2009 10:30 PM

Second pic didn't show in last post... 2nd try--->


alanX 04-29-2009 10:31 PM

Sweet! An art thread! Do photoshop creations count? I hope so.

I love the ととろ picture, my friend. The simplicity of it is what I like about this type of art.

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...68c92ad907.png
http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...858f9c7d6e.png
http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...43af62747f.png
http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...1a31ec04e4.png
http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...8eb21a5139.png
http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...eaaecaea00.png
(here's what I'm talking about when I say simplicity)http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...feead9ca92.png
http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...b0ce2090a0.png
http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...6c897a8da0.png
http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...3da7aef3dd.png
more simplicity http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...fc273cfb49.png
http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...cfa43a60ac.png
http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...cdcf9fe1f8.png

And some quick sigs I've made...
http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...e7d33aed2b.jpg
http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...f5336ded6a.png
http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...58660a4966.jpg

All comments are greatly appreciated.

InuAisu 04-29-2009 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MMM (Post 707121)
Actually I don't think there is anything wrong with the composition. You are drawn to the creature's eyes, then to what he is looking at. The fact that we can't see what he is looking at is what makes the composition unnerving, and that is a good thing. Put a butterfly in the space, and I see "creature looking at butterfly"....YAWN!

Leave it as is and the picture tells a story and the viewer can't help but wonder what will happen next.

It's perfect, don't change a thing.

I defenitely agree! It adds a good mystery!! :) It gives the imagination of the viewer a chance to finish the picture!

InuAisu 04-29-2009 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanX (Post 707125)
Sweet! An art thread! Do photoshop creations count? I hope so.

I love the ととろ picture, my friend. The simplicity of it is what I like about this type of art.

All comments are greatly appreciated.


OHEMGEE!! They were so pretty!! I liked the one with the red splatter with the streams coming out! Did you draw the lil fella in yer sig? He's so cute! <3

alanX 04-29-2009 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InuAisu (Post 707128)
OHEMGEE!! They were so pretty!! I liked the one with the red splatter with the streams coming out! Did you draw the lil fella in yer sig? He's so cute! <3

Hahaha thanks so much! ^^

No, I just edited it and whatnot. Here's the original:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v9...g?t=1241045006

RKitagawa 04-29-2009 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MMM (Post 707121)
It's perfect, don't change a thing.

lol thanks MMM, i do appreciate that, but I also agree with Troo about the blank space on the left, it just seems that there is something missing.

and besides, i already added stuff to my picture before i saw your comment, haha



I did however try to keep some story to it, and i think i still have a little of that "what happens next?" in it.
anyways, hope you guys like the finished product :)
thanks again

MMM 04-29-2009 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RKitagawa (Post 707138)
lol thanks MMM, i do appreciate that, but I also agree with Troo about the blank space on the left, it just seems that there is something missing.

and besides, i already added stuff to my picture before i saw your comment, haha


I did however try to keep some story to it, and i think i still have a little of that "what happens next?" in it.
anyways, hope you guys like the finished product :)
thanks again

I like this, too. You have some real talent, but if I had to choose one or the other, I liked the first version better. The tension is almost all gone in the second version.

alanX 04-29-2009 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MMM (Post 707140)
I like this, too. You have some real talent, but if I had to choose one or the other, I liked the first version better. The tension is almost all gone in the second version.

I agree, not that there is anything wrong with the second one.

Like I said before, I love the simplicity of the first one, and I too see some talent

^_^

Pexster 04-29-2009 11:27 PM

RKitagawa, Ypsilanti, InuAisu, and alanX, you're guys work is amazing. ^^v

SephirothVVC 04-30-2009 12:11 AM

@alan- i think the one with the smoke is the best^.^

Pexster 04-30-2009 12:12 AM

Yeah I liked that one alot too and the monkey haha

RKitagawa 04-30-2009 12:49 AM

whoah so many posts, gonna be hard keeping up with them all. alright, gonna start from InuAisu:
I love the dog! so cute lol

the main problem with this one is your line of action, see how he's leaning to his right?
kinda looks like hes gonna fall over.

heres a quick sketch to show u what i mean.



u should always make sure the character is balanced unless its in the middle of an action, ie. running, jumping, etc...
but since your character is simply standing, he should be balanced.
keep up the good work though! would love to see more from you :)

RKitagawa 04-30-2009 12:57 AM

to MMM and alanX
thank you both very much, i see what you guys are saying, i still think it looks a bit empty in the first one, but I also see how the second one looses it's uhh... like....openness for the viewers imagination.
wish i could find a happy in between. but oh well, i'm finished with that picture.

i just thought it would be a waste to not upload version two after doing it.
anyways, thanks :)

RKitagawa 04-30-2009 01:06 AM

ok next, alanX.
I really can't critique your stuff much, since it's mostly abstract.
but man, you've got some really cool stuff. good job.

I love the multicolored smoke.
the only thing i'd say is to watch out for color, such as in...
http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...feead9ca92.png

that one, see how there is only one flat green for the grass, and a pretty flat grey-ish color for the sky? it could use more variation in my opinion.

but that problem was only present in a few of your pictures, overall you have some crazy stuff.

that apple is awesome.

PockyMePink 04-30-2009 01:34 AM

Great works guys. Really. Pretty cool stuff in this thread :)

I just started my first attempt at photoshopping a few pictures I drew for my friends, and I was hoping you guys could give a few tips to this ole' newb.

These go in order from the first I phoroshopped, to the latest (I think they improve as they go):

First: http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2.../ashcolor2.png
Second: http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...kriscolor1.png
Third (alternate to the second): http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...kriscolor2.png
Fourth: http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2.../Krisbday1.png

Any comments/criticism are welcome :)

Kyousuke 04-30-2009 02:29 AM

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i want to know what you guys think of this rough draft. im making it for a contest. the deadlines july 1st so no rush for me. i am going to make the dress pink with either some teal or blue here and there. maybe even a dark pink. theres going to be stawberries behind her with pocky in big letters surrounding her. the dress is still pretty much incomplete. the eyes arent the way i want them so im redoing it .

RKitagawa 04-30-2009 03:48 AM

PockyMePink

yay! chibi style... my.... favorite.....
ok i lied, i hate most chibi stuff. but hey, whatever floats your boat.

so, since i dont have too much time i'm gonna start with your faces/heads
overall they aren't too bad, you're off to a good start, but since they ARE chibi it's kinda hard to critique... i mean... they're messed up anatomically, but on purpose...
so even though it's wrong... at the same time it is right.

BUT! even though the style is "super deformed" you still have to follow the basic rules.
so, here's some pretty pictures i made for ya



so... in this picture, the guys head is tilted to his right.
if we look at the eyeline though (blue line) his eyes go on an angle opposite to that.
you should make a habit of drawing cross shaped lines across the center of the face. it will help to get the angles right.
this however, was only on this one guy, all your other pictures were good with the eyelines.

the overall problem you seem to have with the faces are the positions of the nose and mouth. and the size of your eyes.
your eyes are.... HUGE, even for a chibi i think they're a little big.

MOST IMPORTANTLY**
the nose should be half way between the eyes and the chin!
The mouth should be half way between the nose and the chin!
practice these things and you should be drawing more anatomically correct faces in no time.

as for the body, i can show you that next time.
so, thats all i got for you at this moment, hope i helped a bit.
if you have any questions i'd be glad to lend a hand.

sorry if that all sounded a little harsh btw, just trying to help out. :)

alanX 04-30-2009 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyousuke (Post 707337)
i want to know what you guys think of this rough draft.

I think it looks great, nice sketch!
The only thing slightly off to me is the eyes look a bit masculine.

Kyousuke 04-30-2009 03:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanX (Post 707369)
I think it looks great, nice sketch!
The only thing slightly off to me is the eyes look a bit masculine.

i felt the same about the eyes. im still working on new designs for the eyes

RKitagawa 04-30-2009 04:13 AM

Kyousuke

in all honesty, I really like it. I had a lot of trouble thinking of ways to improve it. biggest problem i have (which isnt even a very big problem) is her right arm. it looks nice, it seems correct to me. its just that since its coming straight out towards the camera, u really cant see much of the arm at all. so i was thinking maybe move it out a bit? up? down? just somewhere so that the silhouette would read better.

Here is a paint over i drew:

but i'm not happy with the way the arm looks up there... i think to the side would be better.

also... i dont know if this is just because of the clothes but she seems really flat chested lol
or maybe she just is like that... i dont know.
that one i'll leave up to you to decide.

anyways I like it! good luck in the competition! please post some progress updates! i'd love to see the finished product.

oh and, i agree about the eyes, should be more... round, and ... cute-sy-ish, ya know? :ywave:

alanX 04-30-2009 04:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RKitagawa (Post 707379)

also... i dont know if this is just because of the clothes but she seems really flat chested lol


anyways I like it! good luck in the competition!

oh and, i agree about the eyes,

LOL.

This isn't porn tryouts:mtongue:

RKitagawa 04-30-2009 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanX (Post 707380)
LOL.

This isn't porn tryouts:mtongue:

lmao, of course not.. but hey, boobs are a part of a person too.
haha

Kyousuke 04-30-2009 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RKitagawa (Post 707379)
Kyousuke

in all honesty, I really like it. I had a lot of trouble thinking of ways to improve it. biggest problem i have (which isnt even a very big problem) is her right arm. it looks nice, it seems correct to me. its just that since its coming straight out towards the camera, u really cant see much of the arm at all. so i was thinking maybe move it out a bit? up? down? just somewhere so that the silhouette would read better.

Here is a paint over i drew:

but i'm not happy with the way the arm looks up there... i think to the side would be better.

also... i dont know if this is just because of the clothes but she seems really flat chested lol
or maybe she just is like that... i dont know.
that one i'll leave up to you to decide.

anyways I like it! good luck in the competition! please post some progress updates! i'd love to see the finished product.

oh and, i agree about the eyes, should be more... round, and ... cute-sy-ish, ya know? :ywave:

gracias and Arigatou! you just gave me some ideas. this character is actually based off a comic i am making, so her chubby funsters arent that big :D

i want to correct that arm because the long sleeves come off a bit weird, especially on the right arm. its a bit tilted but i plan to correct that when i sketch the final draft later. its because its for a drawing contest and the theme is pocky so i wanted her to hold a box of strawberry flavored pocky. i think i might raise the right arm up just a bit so you can see the arm.

MissMisa 04-30-2009 05:31 AM

This was my one of my newest:



What I'm aware of:

- Arm length
- Weird right foot
- Bad/lazy hands
- Maybe the shoulders are weird looking at it~

Oh yeah and the Momoko speedpaint:


Kyousuke 04-30-2009 06:05 AM

I WANT THAT KAMIKAZE GIRLS PICTURE! thats awesome

MissMisa 04-30-2009 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyousuke (Post 707404)
I WANT THAT KAMIKAZE GIRLS PICTURE! thats awesome

Thank you ^_^ I love Kamikaze Girls~ I'm going to do one of Ichiko too!

Kyousuke 04-30-2009 07:07 AM

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I fixed the eyes and added more detail to the dress

Troo 04-30-2009 08:28 AM

Just trying to catch up on this thread this morning, so forgive me if I've left anyone out.

RKitagawa - Vastly improved, although your caterpillar should be a little further left. The image now draws the eye in rather than repelling it.

AlanX - Sorry, our firewall blocks the server your images are hosted on, so I can't comment :(

MissMisa - The face is angled incorrectly to sit naturally on the head. The head is facing to our left just a little (by the placement of her right cheek and left jawbone), yet her eyes, nose and mouth match the placement of a head facing to our right just a little.

Kyousuke - That's coming along brilliantly! Can't wait to see the finished result :)

For those of you seeking feedback on your artistic skills, I heartily reccommend the ImagineFX forum: ImagineFX - Forums
They're an extremely helpful community, and it's not uncommon for artists posting there to be published in the magazine itself :)

As for posting something of my own? Hmm. I tend to do portraits more than scenes in my drawings, and my photography is mostly animals. Here are a few:






Troo 04-30-2009 08:28 AM

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Ypsilanti 04-30-2009 08:29 AM

k so 2 more ^^
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...z/P4210239.jpg
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...z/P4210255.jpg

Troo 04-30-2009 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ypsilanti (Post 707440)

Hmm. The white balance is off in this one. I assume you allowed your camera to auto white balance here?

When shooting white subjects, take a shot with AWB, then set your white balance / colour temperature to the shot you just took. That way your whites don't get greyed or blued out.

The camera has also underexposed the background due to the brightness of the flower. Bracketing could've helped you here again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ypsilanti (Post 707440)

All the dead buds in shot make this image look far less vibrant than it should. Some judicious pruning before exposure could've really livened this up. Failing that, this is one where a head-on shot with the stamen dead centre would've been fantastic - a little manipulation of the position of the flower might've been necessary to prevent your shadow touching it.

Remember, the trick with shooting flora is to get your hands in there and force it to look natural. Shooting things as they naturally are invariably leads to distractions and unwanted crud in the shot. Plants are great practice material because you can gently move them around to fit your purpose best.

One of the best flower macro photographers I know lists clothespegs, elastic bands, sticks, and a water mister among his most important equipment :D

PockyMePink 04-30-2009 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RKitagawa (Post 707366)
PockyMePink

yay! chibi style... my.... favorite.....
ok i lied, i hate most chibi stuff. but hey, whatever floats your boat.

so, since i dont have too much time i'm gonna start with your faces/heads
overall they aren't too bad, you're off to a good start, but since they ARE chibi it's kinda hard to critique... i mean... they're messed up anatomically, but on purpose...
so even though it's wrong... at the same time it is right.

BUT! even though the style is "super deformed" you still have to follow the basic rules.
so, here's some pretty pictures i made for ya



so... in this picture, the guys head is tilted to his right.
if we look at the eyeline though (blue line) his eyes go on an angle opposite to that.
you should make a habit of drawing cross shaped lines across the center of the face. it will help to get the angles right.
this however, was only on this one guy, all your other pictures were good with the eyelines.

the overall problem you seem to have with the faces are the positions of the nose and mouth. and the size of your eyes.
your eyes are.... HUGE, even for a chibi i think they're a little big.

MOST IMPORTANTLY**
the nose should be half way between the eyes and the chin!
The mouth should be half way between the nose and the chin!
practice these things and you should be drawing more anatomically correct faces in no time.

as for the body, i can show you that next time.
so, thats all i got for you at this moment, hope i helped a bit.
if you have any questions i'd be glad to lend a hand.

sorry if that all sounded a little harsh btw, just trying to help out. :)

Bad thing is that I wasn't aiming for chibi style - or any anime style, for that matter. It's a style of my own that I've adapted; it was sorta supposed to follow the guidelines of huge (undetailed) eyes, and a lower placed nose (which is hard to do, considering I'm the kind of person that foams at the mouth for correct placement).

But I will agree that picture is a little off. It was a last minute drawing I did at the end of a test in chemistry class, so I don't really beat myself up for it like I usually would -_-;

Thanks for your comments :)


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