Increase of spammers lately
 

I have an idea. It won't help stop this, but it might slow it down a little.

What if, after you confirm your account via email, you have to wait 24 hours before you can post? I know this is a forum, therefore you would want to post sooner, but if banned people make more accounts, the point of banning them is lost.

I'm saying this because I want people to enjoy this forum, not claw their eyes out after seeing some of its members' posts.

Yes, maybe this was not a good idea, in which case you can remove my thread. Just please listen to this.

Or you can IP-ban the offending members. I'm just unsure if you want to take a measure that extreme.

The IP-Ban is a good suggestion and it would stop them for probably.good ideas 2 :D

I may be new to the forums but would be more than happy to mod parts of the site to squash so much of the spam we've been getting. I'm at my computer at home, work and school and visit quite often all times of the day.

IP-band sounds like the most efficient solution but some forums don't have that option (not sure that's the case with JF). If all users had to wait 24 hours before being able to make their first post, most spammers wouldn't think it's worth the time and would just go away, I think Kajitsu's is a good idea.

[Kanji is not on msn at the moment and neither is CoolNard, so it might be a while before the user + all of his posts are deleted].

I think being dumb is sort of a strong attribute of these spammers... and if they're willing to put so much effort into spamming they will be able to adapt to the 24 hour limit. However, a post number requirement before allowing pictures in posts may help with the type of spam we're experiencing. They may be able to post bullshit but at least not obscene images.

Maybe a mix of the two ideas would help!

It's easier and less of a piss off to make it so that you need say... 25 posts to post a new topic.

The IP band is a very good Idea but sence Kanji isn't an Administer he can not issue one

Wait you're saying 25 posts JUST to post a new thread is excessive, yet waiting 24 hours isn't?

The majority of the spams come from people joining and posting a bunch of topics in every section. Having people wait 24 hours to post won't really do much. The people who want to will just wait till tomorrow.

It doesn't have to be 25 posts, it could be less, or could be more. 25 was a random example. Not only does it encourage new members to participate in threads, but it prevents people joining and making spamvertising threads.

Having people wait 24 hours is, to some, going to seem like a big "f'off" to anyone new joining. People generally join forums and want to post right away. Some people would join see a 24 hour waiting period and forget they joined.

Post limit before you can make a new thread is the easiest way to dampen the spam and least harmful to legit people joining the forums

Then again. Why do people join these kind of forums in the 1st place? To ask a question. What will they do if they wont be able to do so? Either ask it in already existing thread, which will make it less likely to be answered, or just leave the forum.

And as you can perfectly see from the recent past events, spammers are perfectly capable of spamming up already existing threads (as well as the calendar), so not letting them make new threads is not solving the problem.


It's actually a good idea, unless we remember the fact that they can use several accounts at the same time :rolleyes:

actually, if there was a 24 hour wait, new members would be more likely to read all the stickies on rules and such. and also more likely to search the forums for answers that already exist.

might help with more than dick-headed spamming.

Actually I frequent another forum (much larger than this one, but still) that has the 25 post before you can make a thread. It works perfectly fine. A lot of people find a thread that already asks their question, or end up learning other things while they get the required posts.

how often do admins check the site?

oh wow... not too often then lol :P

Maybe even more, if not about the same.

Thanks for the heads-up. I gotta add those to my ignore list ;)

0_0 Wow... this thread...

I agree about this. I was one of them, after all. ^_^; Maybe the search button should be bright red!

Yes, I was joking.

I was hoping people would post suggestions, but I mostly expected this thread to be ignored or deleted. The 24-hour wait would be tedious, but it might help slightly. I know I would be annoyed, but once that's over... we might have better members coming in.

Or maybe it was the worst idea I ever had. Still, you can't say it was worse than trying to recharge a battery when the power had gone out. :rolleyes:

As annoying as it is.

Post delay would slow the spammers down.
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They need to take it off PM and put it on that instead.

A lot of spam is also from automated bots, posting the same thing over and over, and they usually have jiggy names. These could EASILY be stopped by implementing Captcha [those random letters and numbers] on Login. It takes a second to type and bots can't read it.

It may work in some cases, but I reckon that most of the spammers who just post to be annoying [not advertising] are children, they will have access to computers all over the place, schools, libraries, friends houses and so on, so maybe in these instances it won't be so successful.


The recent problem hasn't been creating new topics though - it has been spamming on old ones.

This sort of talk has come up before - I suggested moderating the first few posts.

Check here; http://www.japanforum.com/forum/site...e-posting.html

Mean spammers
 

Post all your mean comments about spammers here...

don't add fuel to there fire by drawing attention to there threads.

I have more to say about the moderators on this site than the spammers. This is ridiculous.

Fvck you smarties.

The moderators need to start cracking down. -_-

IP ban anyone?
 

Hello, yeah, Im just wondering, does the admin know how to use the IP ban control? You know, Internet Protocol ban? Yeah, if you are a good admin, you might have the knowledge to use the IP ban, IF you are half decent, so please, IP ban those bitchass mothafvckers that are spamming the place.

Thanks. :)

And seriously? He has fvcking 50 posts of that sh!t!! Fvcking ban him. -_-

the only reason they havent been banned faster is because kanji isnt here at the moment and he's the one usually doing the banning

It does seem that there is room for improvement on the forum as far as either the number of/abilities of moderators.

People like these spammers can be stopped in a matter of minutes (or seconds depending on coincidental sign in times) if there were more people watching the forums with the ability to ban users/delete posts.

The Spam Plan.
 

So.. i duno about the rest of you guys and girls, but im really sick of the sicko spammers.

I have a harsh but awesome plan.

So hear me out before you say "NO!"

I suggest after creating 2 threads making the wait time between making a third thread 10 minutes, and if you post one within 5 minutes after that 10 minutes it should go up to 15 minutes etc. i think this would cut down spam considerably. for example. "Smarties" created approximately 40 threads. But what if he had to wait 10 - 15 minutes after creating a second thread. he might make it to like 5 before giving up?

And its not like its going to cause any trouble for real JF users, i mean its not everyday you really want to create 3 threads within 15 minutes of each other right? If your a real JF user the wait time would be no hassle.

OK now for the last bit. This would only be for creating new threads. there wouldnt be any penalty for posting alot. Because that could be a hassle for real members aswell and we dont want that. BUT the spammer would either have to post in his own thread (to keep it alive, because he cant keep creating new ones.) or he would have to post in other peoples threads.

BUT!!!! the good thing about this is! Tho the "ignore" button is usefull. it wont stop showing his created threads on the homepage right? if he has to post in other people threads and your ignoring him. all the threads on the main page or going to be legitimate threads. which means his not going to get the satisfactory from seeing the main page covered with his topic names.

Anyway just a thought. Something needs to be implemented tho to stop the spam.

Many standard forums have 3min pr.new thread if I remeber right,
but is it better that he spams other ppls threads then just make new threads that ppl never will even visit?

Depends i guess, if he spams created threads it destroys the main page. + even if you have him on ignore it will still show his created threads. and people do visit and reply to them.. if people put a spammer on ignore it still shows all his created threads. if youv noticed they hardly post at all. by creating new threads its forcing people to see them.

If he spams other people threads but his on ignore, it wont wreck the main page. The ignore button works best only for not showing posts, not threads.

the only other solution i could think of that may be better is improving the ignore button so it doesnt show the created threads on the main Page created by someone on your ignore list. but i think you should still be able to see them if you go into the topics.

for example. if someone is on your ignore list (it doesnt matter if theyre a spammer or not) you just dont like them. and they create a new thread (say in the Anime Managa section) it shoulldnt show for you on the main page. but if you go into the anime manga section you should be able to see it.

that way if you ignore a spammer it wont show theyre threads on the main page (for everyone that has them on ignore) but if youv just ignored a real JF user you dont like, you wont have to take them off your ignore list to see theyre threads if you go into the right section.

so if you like anime manga and you go into that topic you should be able to see the threads even people on your ignore list make.

that would keep the main page clean to some extent anyway.

Posting: How to get people to ignore your posts.
 

This is a bit of a rant thread but it still fits the section. I've noticed a slight trend to happen on JF more than other forums: posting in small font that's bright colours.

Yea, simple. Don't do it if you want your posts to get ignored. It's hard to read and hurts your eyes. I'm not sure about other people but when I see someone post in brightly coloured small font on a white background I don't even bother reading it and ignore it.

Sure you're trying to be unique and that's fine for you. Please though... make sure people can read it? I mean fuchsia, cyan, or bright purple on a white background? Sorry that's just annoying.

This isn't directed at anyone in particular. Though I'm sure someone here will think so. It's a general thing though. So if you feel "targeted" that's your fault.

Lol glad I'm not the only one who hates it. I highlight the words with my mouse and squint. I guess the general idea of the sentence instead of hurting my eyes and head reading the whole thing.

That's not the same at all, and I don't think you took the time to read everything. I said it's great that people want to be unique but make it in something people can read.

Agree 100%

There's always going to be more important things to discuss. But if that was the case what's the point of a forum? Every single thread on this forum could be ended with "shut up, there's more important things to discuss"

lol yeah. Not to mention the site suggestion area only getting like 1 post a week.