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03-23-2010, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by darksyndrem View Post
Did you even watch the video? He's talking about punishing the middle class Americans that already have health insurance, so that a very small amount of people can be covered as well. Did you not hear him talking about the government "punishing the 85% that work, so that the 15% that won't work can be covered"?
Yes I watched the video.

We all pay for police services, but the majority of us will never use them. We are punishing the majority to help the minority who use police services? Some libertarians think we shouldn't be paying for police and fire. People should be responsible for their own protection and property.

But what would happen if the government stopped paying for police and fire?

As you consider that consider that the 85% are already being punished and are already paying for the 15% that don't have health insurance. However ER trips are much more expensive than preventable disorders that people without insurance don't get treated.

And it isn't 15% that "won't work" Unemployment is less than 10%, and the majority of those people want to work. However, there is a percentage of people that cannot afford health insurance as it is today, and take the gamble of not being covered. When those people get hurt, guess who pays? We do. Hospitals have to cover expenses, so they increase prices for paying customers. Insurance companies have to make profits, so they increase prices to their users.


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I don't see why you would ever want to be like all the other countries. Do you not understand anything about what America stands on? This bill does not line up at all with the motives that got us here.
There is nothing wrong with using a system that works. The problem is in American we have primary care health insurance companies. You have to understand these don't need to exist in other First World countries. To go to a single payer system means the demise of these multi-billion dollar corporations. They are very powerful lobbyists. The truth is the majority of America wants a single-payer healthcare system. That is the NORM on the world stage.

We have police, fire and postal services like other countries. Why wouldn't we want universal health coverage?

Explain how "this bill does not line up with all the motives that got us here".
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