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05-11-2010, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by RickOShay View Post
増す vs 増える.. .I am pretty sure 増す is transitive.. and 増える is intransitve.. when が is used with 増す i think it is just a subject marker. For me when I use を.. I use 増す.. and I would never use を with 増える。
No, I think they are both intransitive. Maybe you're misreading the first as 増(ふ)やす rather than 増(ま)す? Because 増やす is transitive. 増す is not, as far as my book is concerned. Or, at least, maybe the latter can be transitive and intransitive. In Eijiro, it indicates masu as 【他動】, which means it is intransitive. But it also has 【自動】 examples as well. As an intransitive it means "to add," which is the meaning I'm curious about. As a transitive, it means "heighten/intensify/rise." But that's weird because "rise" is intransitive!

But thanks for the input!

Today has been very productive. My favorite new word is 系列子会社 (subsidiary company)!
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