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Originally Posted by cranks
What is fluent is always a controversy to which you never get an answer. I like to use the IRL scale because it is very objective.(check the links at the bottom)
ILR Scale
I usually consider one to be fluent if he/she is at level 3. For example, I'll say you speak fluently if you are at Speaking 3. |
But there you introduce subjectivity into the analysis. I would say level 1 or 2 is "conversant." So again, we're at the same impasse.
I'll just drop the argument. We won't get anywhere. Regardless, you will not ever reach level 3 in Japanese within four years of residing in the US unless you move to Little Tokyo somewhere and speak practically only Japanese all day.
I spent about ten hours a week speaking Japanese in the US for three years, and also lived in Japan speaking only Japanese for a year. I still wouldn't have called myself fluent after all that. Conversant, yes. Fluent, no way, Jose.