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Originally Posted by Ronin4hire

I was referring to you thinking that a few Western governments and the environmentalists are saying the same thing.

Please don't read my mind but my words. Please present MY sentence that made you think this way. I have never talked about Western governments.

Originally Posted by Ronin4hire

It seems you see the anti whaling side as a collection of people with the same arguments and agendas where in fact it is a collection of arguments from various people with different agendas.

Again, please present MY sentence that made you think this way.

Originally Posted by Ronin4hire

I support ONE of the MANY various anti-whaling positions out there.

It is YOUR responsibility to present that ONE position. You keep accusing me of failing to understand this and that, when you haven't presented anything yourself.

Originally Posted by Ronin4hire

You and the majority of Japanese make this mistake because the Japanese government and media portrays the whaling issue in this way.

Oh, NOW it's about Japanese eh?

Originally Posted by Ronin4hire

You are just paranoid. I see an environmentalist movement who is picking its battles wisely. Furthermore, different organizations have different purposes.

OK. My view is different from yours so I'm paranoid. Very well.

Originally Posted by Ronin4hire

I didnt concede anything. I based my facts on the movie the cove and other websites and articles Ive read. You said it isnt so without giving me any sort of link... I cant prove you wrong... you cant prove me wrong... and it wasnt my main argument.

I posted the link below just 4 posts before your first post here. I'd be nice if you can pay a little more attention to what other people are saying before starting to preach what you believe is morally superior.

"OK. This seems to be more of the case than anything else. Mercury concentration varies depending largely on the species.
http://www.mhlw.go.jp/topics/bukyoku...50812-1-05.pdf"

Your argument is based on a movie and some website articles. OK. I understand.

Originally Posted by Ronin4hire

Now you are just getting confused because we were talking about 2 issues at once. I am not defending the activists completely. But I am on their side as I dont want to see legalization of commercial whaling.

Again. Please Please pay a little more attention to what people are saying, and stop reading people's mind. Nobody was talking about commercial whaling.

Originally Posted by Ronin4hire

Well the Discovery Channel did it for the money. I am pretty sure that Sea Shepherd did it for awareness purposes first and foremost.

You are the one who said Japan should obey the INTERNATIONAL community. And you are now supporting Sea Shepherd which is banned from the INTERNATIONAL whaling community, and employing methods that are clearly against the INTERNATIONAL law. Your logic is very expedient. You say one thing, but don't stick to your own logic and start saying something totally irrelevant or something that contradicts with your previous logic. I feel that you are arguing just because you don't wanna lose.

Originally Posted by Ronin4hire

I am really starting to question your intelligence.

Thanks for a very intelligent remark.

Originally Posted by Ronin4hire

Self-awareness is not the ONLY parameter to be considered obviously.

Well, again, YOU are the one who said the LOGICAL reasoning is that "The fact is that Dolphins are intelligent animals that have self-awareness. This makes killing them cruel". and AGAIN, you started saying "well that's not the only thing" when your logic is refuted. So what is your LOGICAL reasoning after all? And will you keep inventing a new "logical reasoning" every time it is refuted? If so, please let me know now. I'll give up.

Thanks,