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05-01-2011, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Nippom View Post
The originator of this thread seeks charitable support for a manifestly uncharitable position which amounts to kicking Japan while she is down.

It would be better to say, 'Give money to Haiti also', not 'Give to Haiti but not Japan'.
To say 'not to Japan', in a forum titled www.japanforum.com, is 'in your face' uncharitable.
To justify such an insupportable position by claiming that a nation which has suffered quake, fire, tsunami, and nuclear disaster of historic proportions which moved much of Japan laterally by 2 or more meters, and shifted the axis of the poles, is 'rich', is also uncharitable.
To justify such an insupportable position even further by claiming 'there are next to no Japanese on this site' -'if' true (not saying it is)- begs the question; 'Why?'
This in turn points quite logically and straightforwardly to the obvious answer, 'Because there are people at this forum indulging (i.e. catering to baser emotions) in making uncharitable remarks about the Japanese, such as using 'major' disaster as a form of psychological leverage to gain additional impact or mileage for their cheap shots'.

He also needs to clarify what he means about 'emotion is seen as somewhat of a weakness' (in Japan), as to whether he is referring to 'not showing any emotion' at all, or even merely to 'feel it' (resulting in inhuman automatons), or perhaps to 'show emotion inappropriately according to Japanese norms'.

Actually, the trend of his posts for this entire thread points to an obsession with provoking others into showing a lack of politeness.
Which in turn begs the question; Why?
One might conjecture -although nothing can be stated for certain- that this can be turned around, and in the turning reveals the silhouette of someone who tried to impress Japanese society with his natural gifts, and could not understand why the Japanese were not only not appreciative, but were turned off.
That's because it is the custom in Japan to downplay compliments, and not to do so is viewed as gauche and the sign of an overweening ego-tripper.
Not that such a perception is true, merely that it is a Japanese cultural norm in much of society.
The proper response to a compliment is to downplay or deny it.
One conjectures further that the more he ran into this, the more he tried to contradict it by trying to impress the Japanese he met even more.
This would result in a 'vicious circle' of his ever downwards-spiraling reputation, as he continued to miss the point of the game.
After all, he has stated over and over in this thread that he sees no reason to change his ways or to accommodate others; why should he have done so for the Japanese?
Which brings us to the very title and point of this thread; that he refuses to accommodate the Japanese.
If -'if', mind you, but by no means for certain- this conjecture is supported by the trend of this thread, then what we may ascertain here is that he persisted in 'doing it his way' and the Japanese around him persisted in 'being Japanese' and not appreciating it and -key issue here- acting like he is socially out of step (according to their norms) -which is not the same thing as 'emotionally out of control' but could possibly be perceived as such by him- around and around, down and down, and eventually resulting in social burn-out with Japanese society in general.
So what do we see now, but someone endlessly provoking everyone around him at a Japanese forum -this is not www.haitiforum.com- into acting like they are the ones who are out of step, who do not have emotional self-control, and always summing up each post with the self-gratifying remark that he's fine, he's not emotional, he 'does not care' what others think.
I didn't even understand half of that. Is English your native language?

The parts I did understand just show that you're crazy.

Bottom line is as Robin and Rick have put it. There have been some rational counter points made sure.... but most of this thread is people getting irrationally upset.

Last edited by Ronin4hire : 05-01-2011 at 10:12 AM.
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