JapanForum.com  


View Poll Results: Does Equivalent Exchange still apply?
Yes, always does. 3 25.00%
Not really Equivalent, but still Exchange 8 66.67%
No, there is no such thing. 1 8.33%
Voters: 12. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
(#1 (permalink))
Old
Ryuuzaki's Avatar
Ryuuzaki (Offline)
Space Phantom Ninja
 
Posts: 37
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Canada
Send a message via AIM to Ryuuzaki Send a message via MSN to Ryuuzaki Send a message via Yahoo to Ryuuzaki
Equivalent Exchange in the Real World - 12-15-2007, 03:13 AM

I know this topic is discussed a lot, but I don't see any current threads on it here.

Do you believe that, in some way, Equivalent Exchange still applies to the real world?


I honestly believe it does, although it is always not apparent, nor does it apply to a single person or thing directly. Equivalent exchange has greater boundaries in the real world. Instead of just a specific person or object, it applies to everything related. Not everything given up or gained is material/physical either, you may lose/gain something material, but gain/lose something moral.

For example, although not always apparent, let's say you come down with a cold or flu, your first reaction is to get lots of rest. Although unwilling, you gave up your temporary well-being to gain sleep.

Now, before anyone uses it, the Lottery, sure, you only give up a dollar or two and gain a millon. What does that have to do with EE? What about the millions of dollars OTHERS had to give up? Is that still not Equivalent Exchange? Many people give up something so one person can gain it? It's still lose = gain.





Sorry, My Death Note phase ended long ago.
Reply With Quote
(#2 (permalink))
Old
Hyakushi's Avatar
Hyakushi (Offline)
Ikaga desu ka!?
 
Posts: 585
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: My own Private Island ^^.
12-15-2007, 03:19 AM

I think it applies somewhat but not fully. Hahahah I don't know how to say it.


I'm not racist . . . I hate everyone equally.
Reply With Quote
(#3 (permalink))
Old
Ryuuzaki's Avatar
Ryuuzaki (Offline)
Space Phantom Ninja
 
Posts: 37
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Canada
Send a message via AIM to Ryuuzaki Send a message via MSN to Ryuuzaki Send a message via Yahoo to Ryuuzaki
12-15-2007, 03:28 AM

Basically you believe that although it's not Equivalent, it's still exchange? You still have to give up something to obtain, it's just not always of equal value. I can understand that, as it usually seems the case. But I am the type to see things deeper than they really are, that's probably why I see it as always Equivalent.





Sorry, My Death Note phase ended long ago.
Reply With Quote
(#4 (permalink))
Old
Hyakushi's Avatar
Hyakushi (Offline)
Ikaga desu ka!?
 
Posts: 585
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: My own Private Island ^^.
12-15-2007, 03:34 AM

Exactly I guess what I'm trying to say is something so simple could mean more to one person than the other. You hear a leaf fall but they hear a building fall, that kind of thing I guess.


I'm not racist . . . I hate everyone equally.
Reply With Quote
(#5 (permalink))
Old
QuoyaNatsume's Avatar
QuoyaNatsume (Offline)
<==========="Gimm e Sugar"
 
Posts: 888
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Trusts' No-One USA!!!!!!
Send a message via MSN to QuoyaNatsume
12-15-2007, 03:55 AM

I don't think so. It's like when some1 gives & gives & gives but yet gets nothing in return it's basically in vain.


MOM-Yuri Yurir-IonFortuna
Stalker To-Excessum GirlFriend to-TheUnknown
Crazy Brother-Narutocrazy101
Big Brother-SeeD
Gatekeeper-animedude3 -Tasty Cream Pie To-Diru0gaze
Son-Thunda Talkative romantic brother-Powermad147
Auntie-tiki808 Auntie to-Eiri& ML
Kittie w/ Wings-Hoshichan 'ly Camera Vixen- Pjok
+~Member of the Tenjho Tenge Clan
Member-Maya Natsume+~
Member of the THE PERVY CLUB!!
~+MeMbEr Of ThE VaMpIrE cLaN+~
Reply With Quote
(#6 (permalink))
Old
Kenta21's Avatar
Kenta21 (Offline)
JF Old Timer
 
Posts: 190
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: USA
12-16-2007, 12:32 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryuuzaki View Post
Basically you believe that although it's not Equivalent, it's still exchange? You still have to give up something to obtain, it's just not always of equal value. I can understand that, as it usually seems the case. But I am the type to see things deeper than they really are, that's probably why I see it as always Equivalent.
Like your saying, in Equivalent exchange in order to gain the million you'll have to give up something of yours thats worth a million.

But i still see where everyone is coming from.


Mew... ( 水に流す mizu ni nagasu )
Reply With Quote
(#7 (permalink))
Old
Sachiko's Avatar
Sachiko (Offline)
*waves*
 
Posts: 344
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Beach; Aus
12-16-2007, 12:35 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryuuzaki View Post
Basically you believe that although it's not Equivalent, it's still exchange? You still have to give up something to obtain, it's just not always of equal value. I can understand that, as it usually seems the case. But I am the type to see things deeper than they really are, that's probably why I see it as always Equivalent.
ahaha this sounds like econz... opportunity cost my friends
XD
loving it!


sure has been a while...
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




Copyright 2003-2006 Virtual Japan.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.0.0 RC6