JapanForum.com  


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
(#1 (permalink))
Old
ozkai's Avatar
ozkai (Offline)
X Kyoto
 
Posts: 1,474
Join Date: Apr 2009
Post Japan and Communism. How likely? - 05-14-2009, 12:25 PM

One thing I noticed when I first started living in Japan was all the rules that were spelt out.

"You should do this"

"You should do that"

"You shouldn't do this, only when it's that" etc."

Train guards ordering passengers stop emailing on their mobile phones...

My immediate thought's were that it did feel like communism with a large touch of democracy.

How possible is it do you think that Japan will one day fall into the arms of communism?

We now have stories like this:
BBC NEWS | Asia-Pacific | Communism on rise in recession-hit Japan


Cheers - Oz
Reply With Quote
(#2 (permalink))
Old
Yuusuke (Offline)
Banned!
 
Posts: 596
Join Date: Jun 2008
05-14-2009, 01:39 PM

Barely, Japan is a capitalist society plain and simple. Of course they have rules and laws it's what keeps everything order (I hope)
But Japan wouldn't be able the thrive on communism because they wouldn't grow far as a country. They would actually be setting themselves backwards for a country like Japan.


Reply With Quote
(#3 (permalink))
Old
Ronin4hire's Avatar
Ronin4hire (Offline)
Busier Than Shinjuku Station
 
Posts: 2,353
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: ウェリントン、ニュジランド
05-14-2009, 01:52 PM

I doubt Japan will become communist.

While there is an emphasis on group harmony in Japan... Japanese is traditionally a culture which emphasises status and "knowing your place".
Reply With Quote
(#4 (permalink))
Old
cridgit001's Avatar
cridgit001 (Offline)
JF Old Timer
 
Posts: 358
Join Date: Nov 2008
Send a message via AIM to cridgit001
05-14-2009, 04:05 PM

Post Deleted

Last edited by cridgit001 : 03-29-2019 at 08:00 PM.
Reply With Quote
(#5 (permalink))
Old
fluffy0000's Avatar
fluffy0000 (Offline)
FJ to JF
 
Posts: 236
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: lost coast , kalifornia, uSa
again sorta not - 05-14-2009, 04:47 PM

BY ERIC TALMADGE • ASSOCIATED PRESS • April 19, 2009

TOKYO — Under a big red flag, the headquarters of the Communist Party of Japan are the center of the most vibrant grassroots movement in the country. The party's ranks are swelling, it has 24,000 branch offices and more than 1 million people read its newspaper. Only one party — the one that runs the country — beats it at fund-raising.

While the Communist Party — which is the fourth-largest party in parliament but has only 16 of the total 722 seats — is not likely to take over anytime soon, it is making . end.

Prior to Japans entry into WW2 the JCP (Japanese Communist Party) founded in 1922 was the only political party to oppose the ruling partys march to war.
Note JCP during WW2 waged a very bloody counter insurgency through a clandestine intelligence operation that penetrated the highest circles of Japanese Elite excerpt- From Richard Sorge probably the greatest spy intelligence operation in history-Sorge arrived in Japan in September 1933. He was warned by his spymaster not to have contact with the underground Japanese Communist Party or with the Soviet Embassy in Tokyo. His spy network in Japan include Max Klausen, Ozaki Hotsumi, and two other Comintern agents, Branko Vukelic, a journalist working for the French magazine, Vu and a Japanese journalist, Miyagi Yotoku, who was employed by the English-language newspaper, the Japan Advertiser.
Reply With Quote
(#6 (permalink))
Old
james1254's Avatar
james1254 (Offline)
JF Old Timer
 
Posts: 157
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: london
05-14-2009, 06:20 PM

Haha sounds like you guys are all going to get killed come the revolution


              「人は生れながら自由で 、しかもいたるところで鎖に縛られている」
Reply With Quote
(#7 (permalink))
Old
MMM's Avatar
MMM (Offline)
JF Ossan
 
Posts: 12,200
Join Date: Jun 2007
05-14-2009, 06:40 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by cridgit001 View Post
I think it seems like a caste system with the whole "know your place" thing. But yeah, like Yuusuke said, it would be a step backwards and wouldn't make sense.
This is a great example of jamming a round peg into a square hole. Japan's society is not a caste system. The fact that an individual can rise through the ranks proves that.

"know your place" implies that you cannot change rank, which isn't true. Japanese people are more aware of their place in society and in the community (and in the office). That doesn't make it a caste system, it means they are more aware. A Japanese person might wonder why a Westerner was so blind to their surroundings and only focuses on the personal rather than the community.
Reply With Quote
(#8 (permalink))
Old
DJnohara's Avatar
DJnohara (Offline)
JF Old Timer
 
Posts: 193
Join Date: Apr 2009
05-14-2009, 07:37 PM

There is a communist political party in Japan but its very minor in comparison to the DPJ or LDPJ.
I was reading about them and they're NOT like the Soviet communist party. They're actually pretty interesting.

Many people seem to automatically associate communism with dictatorship, brutality and injustice when it wasn't suppose to be that way. It was the corrupt politicians and unstable government that made it that way.

Last edited by DJnohara : 05-14-2009 at 07:40 PM.
Reply With Quote
(#9 (permalink))
Old
komitsuki (Offline)
Busier Than Shinjuku Station
 
Posts: 997
Join Date: Feb 2009
05-14-2009, 08:31 PM

The current Japanese Communist Party is no longer a Marxist-Leninist party. It has already become well Japanized to suit the unique political climate.
Reply With Quote
(#10 (permalink))
Old
komitsuki (Offline)
Busier Than Shinjuku Station
 
Posts: 997
Join Date: Feb 2009
05-15-2009, 12:13 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by ozkai View Post
One thing I noticed when I first started living in Japan was all the rules that were spelt out.

"You should do this"

"You should do that"

"You shouldn't do this, only when it's that" etc."

Train guards ordering passengers stop emailing on their mobile phones...
Same as in South Korea and China in different ways.

Quote:
My immediate thought's were that it did feel like communism with a large touch of democracy.
"My immediate thought's were that it did feel like Confucian social values with a large touch of modern authoritarianism in the disguise of democracy."

There, corrected it for you.

Quote:
How possible is it do you think that Japan will one day fall into the arms of communism
Not likely.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




Copyright 2003-2006 Virtual Japan.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.0.0 RC6