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01-12-2017, 02:27 AM

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Oh arigatou thank you very very much ... so I'll take advantage of your kindness by asking .... when should I use GOMEN and when SUMIMASEN?
( I thought gomen less formal and sumimansen more formal)

and why to ask : "How old are you" are two ways ?

I mean
Oikutsu desu ka?
and
Nansai desu ka?
Always the differece between formal and informal ???

Sorry if I ask and thanks for your kind reply

Sorry I'm quite off topic here :/
I would use "gomen" or "gomen-nasai" (which means "sorry") if I bump into someone, or step on their foot, whereas I would use "sumimasen" like "excuse me" when trying to get around people on the sidewalk or train.

For age, "nan-sai desu ka" is fine. As long as you use "desu" or "masu" with a verb, it is polite enough. In casual conversation, people might simply say "nan-sai?"

When I was studying Japanese, this was all very confusing to me, the regular verbs, then having to add "desu", or "masu", or the the shorter "da" (like a kid in the countryside seeing me and saying "gaikokujin da!!), or ha, ga, etc. But after living in Japan and listening to people speak, it was more easy to sort out.
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01-12-2017, 02:57 PM

”GOMEN"/"GOMEN-NASAI" and "SUMIMASEN" are actually used in the same case and same meaning.

However, original meanings are different.

”GOMEN"/"GOMEN-NASAI" means "forgive me". But "SUMIMASEN" has more deep meaning.

In the daily life, Japanese people are giving and receiving "respect" each other in every human relation and checking their "Balance Sheet of respect" in every action.Remember that the "respect" can be sometimes minus value.

Then, when a Japanese receives respect larger than he/she gave, he/she feel guilty with the too much respect he/she received. "SUMIMASEN" means "the returning (respect) does not reach the end" or "I can not give you the respect to compensate what I made".

"OIKUTSU DESUKA?" also can be used when one buy something.

"O-MOCHI WO KUDASAI:Give me the MOCHI please"
"O-IKUTSU DESUKA?:How many MOCHIs do you need?"

I will be confused when asked "OIKUTSU DESUKA?" suddenly. "NAN-SAI DESUKA?" can not confuse the listener.


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Thank you so much guys! Thanks a lot for the explanation.


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Hello Kito nice to meet you
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yoroshiku onegaishimasu - 10-31-2017, 08:31 AM

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